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00:00

On this episode of industrial talk, we are talking catalysts. Are you a catalyst? What is a catalyst? And as an organization, do you need catalysts? That's what we're talking about on this episode. So let's get cracking.

00:16

Welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott Mackenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hardhat, grab your work boots, and let's go

00:34

Alright, welcome to industrial talk a platform, a warm and fuzzy place for industry heroes such as yourself, because you are bold, you're brave, you dare greatly. We celebrate you on this podcast, because you innovate, you're changing lives, you're making my life better, and therefore you're making the world a better place each and every day. Take that to the bank. All right, in the hot seat. We have a wonderful person by the name of Tracey Lovejoy. That's T R A C E Y right? Don't forget the E. She is co founder and CO CEO at catalyst constellation. And you know we're going to be talking about Yep, catalysts in what that means. And are you a catalyst and you need to get involved because there's an event that's there. They're putting on on the 11th of January, let's get cracking. All right. We're also we're also brought to you by Neil, you're you've heard me talk about Neil. That's neon, that's an E O M go out to neon.com they're creating, how about this for a bold future? Brave, Daring Greatly vision. They're creating the community of the future. They're putting all of this industry for Dotto, the stuff that we talk about on industrial talk each and every day, with some of the best professionals from around the world. They're putting it into action. They're there, they're putting money where their mouth is, and it is an exciting vision. So go out to neoma.com Find out, I'm telling you, man, you're not going to be disappointed. And we're also brought to you by Deloitte, you've heard that name before, especially now, you need to have a consultant that is got your best interest at heart, because these times right now are very challenging, and you need bright minds. And you need visionary guidance to make sure that you survive and that you create a business of resilience. Go out to deloitte.com Find out more you know them. Alright. So

02:42

he ever get that update that that? That iPhone update? Yeah, I just just went through it. I have my iPhone, I got my iPad. I've got everything that's AI related, right? And sometimes I don't like the updates. And you're saying yourself, Scott, why don't you like the update? Because it requires me to change. It requires me to do something different. And then I realized that's what we're all about here in industry, we're all about change. We're all about trying to do something a little bit different, more efficient. It's solving problems. And that is just, that's a factor of change, right? We just need to do that. And so I was complaining, because you could tell by the music. Sometimes it gets a little. No, Poppy, I don't know what you would call it. It skips and it's a digital music, right? Digital, but it skips I can't tell you why. But then I get frustrated. But then I realized that change is good. Yep, changes good. So put that in the back. I don't know where I was going with that. But I just decided that I needed to share my my epiphany when it comes to change and the update with the iPhone, because you know, they make it do something different. You've been doing it one way right with your thumb. And then all of a sudden, you have to change the thumb and now it's at the bottom as opposed to the top. And I can't I can't explain why. I don't know what happened in the star chamber. I phone wherever. They changed it. But I like it. I'm gonna roll with it. That's what I'm about also. So if you've heard the podcast, with Tim, Kobe of Eight Inc. And he's talking about return on experience. I'm fascinated by that because I believe he's onto something that is really important. Now you go go go out find Tim Kobe, like Kobe beef. Right? That's, it's out on industrial talk.com. But the reality is, is that there's truth. And I challenge you and I challenge every listener out here. When you start talking about or thinking about an experience is that experience from your customers perspective, positive or negative? indifferent? I don't know, is there a lasting memory? Is there something there that just says, gosh, that was fun. And and in that experience, you can then begin to develop that relationship. Right? So we did the Christmas and holiday thing. We went to Disneyland Disney World, right Disney World. And we did Epcot. And from the point when you enter in, get it going into the park, you're doing it. It's all about the experience. It's all about what you're hearing, what you're seeing what you're smelling? What's your steady, it's just, it's an inundation. Is that a word? Now, I'm inundated with just experienced stuff. And, and none of it stinks. From my perspective, right? None of it is is off putting, right the food's good that the flowers are pretty, right. Everything is a great experience. And I just came to the conclusion that, yeah, I like experience. And and that's why I offer the podcast because I want to encourage you, if you're listening to this, and you're saying to So Scott, I would like to be on the podcast, I encourage you to do that. I'm all about industrial entertainment, we've got to deliver an entertaining product, we've got to deliver something that is is focused on an experience, right? A positive, because you're doing great stuff out there. As I ramble on, this platform is dedicated to you industrial professionals, it is available to you. And I guarantee you, I guarantee that you will have a great experience. That's That's my guarantee. And you will never come off with this podcast say, I didn't have a good time. I'm telling you. You will. Alright. Segue right here. Alright, so I met, I met Shannon Lucas. She's the other co founder with Tracey Lovejoy. And I met her in San Francisco, and

07:11

excellent chest on fire delivers just just fun, passionate stuff, right. And in this world today, we need to have that passion. We need to have that that desire to really help companies help people succeed and create businesses that are resilient. We talked about catalysts. And and I'm not going to go into it because Tracey does a great job of explaining what that is. But the reality is, if you if you listen to this podcast, and you're going oh, my gosh, I'm not alone. That's how I feel. I'm not alone. I feel just it's it's a great book. They have a book. Okay, hold on the catalyst guide to well, working well. Okay, catalyst guide to working well move fast break shit burnout. And that's exactly what we're talking about here. And it's exciting. And it's a wonderful conversation. And they they just, well, it's really Tracey, Shannon's another conversation. But Tracey just hits the nail on the head. So let's get cracking because you need to listen to this podcast, you need to listen to the wisdom that comes from Tracey and team. Catalyst constellation. So enjoy the interview. All right, Tracey with an E. Welcome to industrial talk. Thank you very much for joining. How are you doing today?

08:36

I'm so happy to be here with you, Scott. Thanks for having me.

08:39

Yeah, every time I look at your name, I see that EY as opposed to just why? Yeah, it causes anxiety for me.

08:48

Because I answered anything. Yeah, but people do why I eat with the heart. All answered to Teresa, Terry Stacy. You're good.

08:59

All right. Love Georgia. Last Name, right. So we're gonna go out into our stat card listener. You go out there Tracey with an 80 ra see why love joy finder. Catalyst. constellations. Is the company. Do not hesitate. Of course. I'm still pending. I'm still looking at my pending my invite.

09:19

You're not You're accepted. Oh, wow.

09:23

I mean, let me refresh. Yes, I have number one now. I'm afraid to sit there. All right. All right. For the listeners out there. Tracey, give us a little just 411 on who you are,

09:36

and who I am. My background was as a researcher, I studied anthropology and ethnographic methods which you and I were talking about a little bit earlier right that fancy fancy word. ethnography is a form of study of watching people kind of do their normal life and making sense of it. It comes out of the roots of anthropology and sociology. And I got kind of a dream job coming in. into high tech doing that, which was crazy right out of graduate school, and they flew me all over the world getting to watch people use their technology and everyday lives. Because as you know, in industry, right, you even showed me a device earlier. So often engineers are so excited about the idea that they have, and not necessarily thinking about the applicability to people's lives. And so a lot of tech companies have continued to, you know, kind of leverage social science to think about what is it that people really need? And then build from that perspective, and you had a conversation recently about design thinking that I got to hear that was,

10:33

I liked that. I liked that, because there's a lot of up. I don't I just think that that we need to do more of that now. Yeah, I think I think pre pandemic pre virus, pre whatever that used to be, it seems like it's been a gazillion years ago. But I believe that we were bringing her seat we were lazy, see be game. And I think now I think that disruption is true. I believe that. That's just me. And I think that it's the grave. Yeah, that's right. And I think today, I think you got to bring your A game. And that's understanding people and what does that look like? And that's what are the dynamics about that? And I'm very intrigued with the term catalyst. Yeah. And Shannon, Lucas, co CEO, of catalyst constellation, define catalyst. What is that? What is that?

11:31

Yeah, so most of us know, catalysts from our chemistry, high school, right?

11:37

out of my car.

11:41

So it's the idea that there was, you know, something that you would add that would create a chemical reaction? Yeah, we're not totally pure to that definition. Because when we talk about our in chemistry, a catalyst then changes, right. Whereas what we're talking about is the the catalyst is a human that moves into situations and can really quickly see what's happening here. And how can things be better. And they take action to move that into being they see a vision, and then they move toward it. So most of us have worked with people like this in kind of organizations that we've been in that person that kind of says, Hey, this doesn't seem like the optimal way for us to do a meeting structure. What if we did it like this? Or hey, CEO, that maybe doesn't seem like the most important goal, given the forces that are happening in the globe right. Now? What if we went ahead and did it like this? And so the catalysts among us, are those of us that are constantly scanning the horizon for opportunities. And we have these many visions that come together, and we cannot stop ourselves moving into action. And I'm guessing Scott, this resonates with you.

12:49

Yeah, it's problem. It's, yeah, you can you can put lipstick on that pig. But I'm telling you right now, sometimes it's it's a problem to be able to. And again, but but but I think, for organizations and correct me, you are the professional, it's important to tap into these catalysts because they're there to tap in, or do I use the term corral? I don't know, if I'm running an organization, I'm going to, for me person, I'm going to gravitate to those individuals. But it is is it important for organizations to do that? Find those now

13:29

more than ever, right? The term VUCA, right, the volatile, uncertain, complex, ambiguous world was coined in the 1980s. And a lot of organizations were like, Oh, the VUCA world? Yeah, those are those are companies that are really getting disrupted that I'll think about that one day. Well, COVID came along and showed us Yep, the whole world gets disrupted in a single instant. And if you don't have those people that can help you pivot and can help you look at what's happening on the horizon. What is it we can implement to stay relevant right now? That's the ticket to going out of business and mean the rosters every single day, show us the local businesses that are gone that show us the national businesses that are struggling International, and so finding those people that can help you always be ready, always future proof your organization we find to be essential.

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But see, that's that's that's exhausting. Right? And I hurt for not for me, not for me. But in industry, you know, we're, we're we gravitate towards, you know, consistent, predictable process. Change is not a it's not a kind word sometimes. And and we're being we're being hit with this tsunami of challenges as a result, and I'm telling you, I for me, being who I am, I think that I got it. I got the challenges associated with a pandemic. But there are good things. And I think the good things are like to your point where you're having real conversations, sort of, you know, distilling it down to real problems to solve. Yeah. And beforehand, it was quite lucky, Fluffy, fluffy tenant. Now it's sort of a bit more real. So, you know, I can't I can't ignore that. But I know that industry wants to gravitate towards predictability. I don't like to change. I don't like I don't like problems. And so we're gonna always work to get that out. How do we how do we nurture that? How do we just accept the fact just crap?

15:36

Yeah, I think that there's the the reality that an organization has to create a stasis, right? This is you've lived through enough businesses that you know that when you're a startup, you're just kind of constantly innovating and changing. And everybody wears multiple hats at the same time. And then you hit a tipping point with a business where you have to have things like HR rules, right. And so there's this need for us to have some standardization, when we bring together lots of people. And so when you think about catalysts, and you use the word corral, which is not a bad word, although I prefer the word connect, right, because there's going to spark connect your catalyst, I'm sorry, if you leave your catalyst unchecked, to your point is they're going to be looking at all the opportunities and problems. But if you actually tap them, and connect them, not only with one another, but with leadership, and there's guidance from leadership, saying, Hey, this is the set of problems we want to look at, how can you help us? And if catalysts say, okay, but there's these other problems? Are we going to ignore them? Can we bring them into the list. And if you begin to create a dialogue about what's really happening, that's where the sustainability of an organization can truly happen. Because what you're talking about in terms of that, like we put it in place, and we don't want to change, that's not sustainability. That's how we sustained in the 1950s, when there was very little change. But that's not the world we live in today. Right, we have to be ready for the next disruption. And so if you aren't creating an adaptable, flexible organization that's tapping your people that can help you do that, then you're going to be the one that cracks and falls, because you've put too much structure in place. And so you can build it. So these disruptive people have the guardrails because they're in discussion with you. That's

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the key. But you know, and this is, this is therapeutic for me. Right out there, because, because here's the velocity and change right now, right? Like you said, back in the 50s, that changed in happen as it did, but it wasn't as fast. There's this philosophy now. And I'll use me as an example. All right, hi, boom, I'm running man. I'm having a grand time. I've got this vision in my mind, and I see this problem, and I'm going to sit there and conquer it, and come up with solutions. And then when that happens, what happens? I just die. I just get depressed. I get Lawrence. Amaya is like, how do you how do you within an organization deal with that? So reality tells telling you right now, and you said it in your book, by the way her book is move fast break shit, burnout. That's right. And it is the catalyst guide to working well. Right there. It's right there. I have it right. That's the book. But how do you how do you deal with the organization? I get it? We've got to it's got to be a disruptive world out there. And you got to Crowley, how do you deal with that?

18:39

Yeah, there's Yeah, and there's a lot of pieces that contribute to what you're talking about. One is, and it says it in the book that burnout is a pretty common phenomenon for Catalyst phenomenon. Globally, we're all experiencing, right. But for catalysts in particular, long before COVID, we run hard exactly, as you said at the problem that got us that's got us all excited. And we tend to allow that excitement to kind of be the thing that's filling our tank, and we may not continue those other rhythms of exercise or seeing our friends. So then by the time we get to the other side of the mountain of that particular exciting challenge, and energy begins to decline, because maybe other people are taking it on or we have to get to what we call orchestration, or you've taken a whole bunch of pressure that people are like, No, we don't really want that because we don't want to have to do the things that mean we have to change, right? And so you feel this resistance when we get to that point, if you have let go of your normal routines that fill up your energy that recharge your battery, then I'm sorry, Scott, you're screwed like that's what happens is that just like our empty your battery is empty. So that's one thing is that you have to start paying attention to your own energy. It's a key factor. And then another is a recognition of where are your particular have strengths and how can the organization rise to to be real with that. So if you are the fire started an organization and you help see the problem, you frame the problem help the organization begin to tackle the problem across the silos, which is something that catalysts are amazing at. Then once you've identified it, given its shape, you know, and started tapping people to help you work on it. You may not be the person to continue that program forward. A lot of catalysts don't take energy from that orchestration piece. And so the more an organization knows you and values you and can support you, if that's not your superpower, then they should be ready to help staff things so that that's not going to have to be yours tomorrow.

20:45

Normally, people just run away from you. That's, that's the reality of it. They're rollers, hopped up on goofballs, because this is such a great project. Everybody runs away.

20:59

Yeah. Scary. It can be scary. Yeah. And your marketing genius, Scott. So I hope you were able to bring people along a little better than you're indicating. Right.

21:10

Yeah. Marketing. Genius. Thank you very much. That's right, listeners. But But here's here's how does a manager of can't can organizations have multiple catalysts? Yes. That can multiple callus work on catalysts work on a project? Yes. Absolutely. How the hell do you keep catalysts from not just ripping out the thorax of somebody else? Just doing Yeah, I can I can see a catalyst. Yeah, in a project. Yeah. But multiple catalysts in a project? It's like thunder don't probably you're so

21:52

right. Yep. Yeah. So I mean, this is a key thing. You've been reading the book. So you know that we talked about this quite a bit. But and this is what we teach in the classes that we teach is that we, we can often end up with a negative reputation that is often deserved, to your point, right? Because we can be so frustrated with people and we don't self regulate. And so we can allow that frustration to come out on others, we can be so externally focused on the vision, that we're not paying attention to maybe what that particular change means to someone in front of us, it may threaten their job, it may be calling their baby ugly, maybe we're trying to renovate a process that they put into place. And we're not thinking about what that may mean to them. Right. You and I were having a side conversation earlier about, you know, having to think about that, oh, it was actually just a few minutes ago, right, as I was talking about my background, having to bring the human it until what we do and catalyst have to think about this, too, is that it's not just about this imagined end state. What does that instinct really mean to the humans involved in it in the process to get there. And we often are so focused OUT out there on that horizon that we forget to think about that. And so if we do take the time to do that, we are much more effective at bringing people along.

23:13

So there's a there's an interesting, sort of bi directional thing with the catalyst one, yeah. There's the manager side, hey, I, I've got to manage this business. I've got catalysts. I identify the catalyst. I want to leverage the catalyst, I want to be able to work with the catalyst. And so there are skills, there are techniques, there's, there's ways of being able to harness that energy to benefit. Everybody in the company. That's the second side would be Hi, I am a catalyst. Yes. So I go into some sort of the group therapy. Hi, I'm a catalyst. 100%. And then there's, you've got a one, like, recognize that your catalyst, right? Is this say, Hi, I'm a catalyst. Yes. Recognize, and then that deploy the tools that are available to say, Yeah, this is your personality, it is what it is. But we want to be able to harness and nurture and you want this, you want to be able to take this, this superpower that you have, and and do it with, you know, for the betterment of society. So there's like, there's a dual role here, right?

24:24

That's exactly right. You've said it perfectly. So, you know, for Shannon, as you mentioned, my co CEO and co author and I, it's interesting because we do represent both sides of those. For me, my highest sense of purpose is to really help catalysts embrace themselves. Because when we can fully accept who we are, we also accept who we aren't. And when we know that we can have a lot of grace for ourselves and grace for the people around us. Right up like oh, yeah, I kiss you off. Cash. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to do that. I got so excited about the idea. This is where my edges are. Right. And then for Shannon, her highest purpose is in really helping to evolve the world. organization so that we can solve the world's problems. And so it's at that intersection of identifying your problem solvers and helping the organizations be ready for us that the magic happens.

25:13

It's exciting. Don't get me wrong, I think it's, I think you brought up and you're skirted over it a little bit as a clear purpose, meaning Yes, yeah. For me, knowing that I am up and down, like a dog on pump handle unexcited. And I'm all around, I'm all up and down. And it's. But, but if I don't have a clear vision of like, that purpose of say, Okay, this is the reality of who I am, but I've got to keep on soldiering on. And and, and, and the other thing that you got to sort of mention is, it's, I'll see, I'll see a project. Catalyst, we'll see a project, there's a project, there's sufficient, this is what we need to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But the other thing that I struggle with is that, hey, there's another, there's another one. This, that's exciting. And then another one that's exciting, then I was talking to Tracey with a knee. And I got excited about that. 1/3 one? Yep. How do you? How do you see? How do you do like, do I lean back on my therapy chair?

26:24

That's right, you sit back and I'll just like, give to the world, Scott. For anyone this is true. And for catalysts, even more so true, potentially, I don't know if that's true. It's more true. The clearer we are on what we want to accomplish in any given timeframe, the easier it is for us to know what we want to say yes. And what we want to say no to. And that's easy enough to say it's harder for catalyst in that our ideas are like children, right? If we if we don't do something, we end up feeling like there's something that needed to be birthed, that we aren't allowing to be birthed. Right, it almost is painful to us to not act on the things that we know that can make the world around us better. And so it's asking a lot to say to ask catalysts to say no, to something we do find work works well is it's the idea of if you're clear on what you want to accomplish in the now. Right, whatever that timeframe is for you. You can have a not right now this. So it doesn't mean I'm killing the baby. But you're just you're asking the question. Okay. Is that idea number two that I just came up with? How aligned is that to the thing I say I really want to accomplish in the next three months? Oh, I don't think it's really supportive of that. Do you want to change the thing that you said you want to do in the next three months? No, I'm really committed to that. Okay. Can we move this new idea into the not right now category? You're like, yeah. Right. And so it has to be an intentional constant. Here's the thing I want to do. I know I have to keep my battery charged. Because if I don't, right, you're the source of the change. If the catalyst battery dies, Scott, that's it. The baby, the baby is dead. Yeah, it's not air.

28:14

See, I think you're hitting on some really good points. And this sort of dovetails nicely with with an event let's so listener, if you're listening to this, and you need to get that book, move faster, break shit and burn out. And you're saying to yourself, Scott, I'm a catalyst. It sounds she's talking right to me. And there's an event, there's an event that you've got to you got to participate, and you're not alone. Yes, that's right. The cool thing that is that if there is anything that you walk away from this particular conversation is that you're not alone. You're not an insane. He could be an insane maniac, like, but you're not alone. Not the only one, not the only one. Oh, that's good. You got a posse of people who are sort of similar. And that means I need to there's a there's an event that you guys have scheduled, which is which I'm I'm scheduled to be part of meaning. That's right. What is it? Talk to us about that?

29:08

Yes. So twice a year, we host a totally free event, bringing catalysts thought leaders from around the globe and our next one is early 2022. So January 11, and 12th. You can go register for it's called the catalyst empowerment summit, the catalyst empowerment Summit, and I'm pretty sure you're gonna have a link to it on on your right there just real time and we have these amazing speakers like Peter Hinson, who is an accomplished innovation writer is going to be keynoting the first day, we have conversations to talk about how do you build psychological safety, which is so key for us to be able to create change. We have conversations about how do you manage resilience and like you said, keep that energy up. Shannon and I are going to be talking about how do you identify the workplaces that are really a problem appropriate for Catalyst, right? How do we avoid the toxic and the hostile, which you talked a little bit about earlier? Right. And so there's gonna be all kinds of talks. And what we love most about this event is that we've designed it for the catalyst brain. And so they are short talks, they are 20 minute talks. Yeah, then with 10 minutes q&a, and every single 20 minute talk, you walk away with at least three actionable things that you can put directly into play. And as I said, twice, you're always free to come explore your catalytic, it's virtual, right? And it is online. So

30:37

I'm going to have all the information out there. Because I think that if, if you find yourself feeling alone out there, and you're saying to yourself, Scott, I, I, I feel the same way. You got it, you got to increase your network that includes people who think the same and be able to come up with strategies of managing, that's your the realities of your personality. That's, I mean, that that's important, if you're pissing people off every day, because you're, you're so rigid. You even though you're right, in your vision, whatever it might be, you're not going to succeed, you're not going to succeed and, and change the organization for everybody better. So it's up to you to manage your superpower and being a catalyst

31:19

that said, so Well, there's this you know, oft quoted, it's usually misquoted, and I'll probably just put it now. Maya Angelou saying people won't remember who was right. But they'll still remember how you made them feel. Right, and as catalysts that we really have to take that to heart.

31:36

Instead of like, yeah, run away from Scott. JD just FYI. Run away from him. The other way? Yeah. Great. Cubs, Brian, please. All right, Tracey, you were absolutely wonderful. Thank you for being on industry Talk.

31:50

Thanks for having me, Scott. It's a joy to start my day with you.

31:53

Yeah, it's got a hell of a lot of content coming your way. Now. Remember, go out to industrial talk.com find this interview. We're gonna have the event on my homepage, industrial talk.com. So get signed up. Do not hesitate. Because we got to you're not alone catalyst. Not Alone. Alright. Thank you, Tracey, for joining. Thanks, Scott. All right, listeners. We're gonna wrap it up on the other side, we're gonna have all the contact information for Tracey withany. Right around the corner.

32:24

You're listening to the industrial talk Podcast Network.

32:31

Yep, that was great conversation. Once again, I want to reiterate. They have this event, January 11, to 12th, January 11, and 12. Next year, yeah, it's just January next year 7am. To 1130. That's Pacific Standard Time. Now it's gonna be out in industrial talk. So don't worry about it, you get the link, you gotta, you gotta get connected. It's virtual. And it has the best price of all, it's free. But you get to hear from people that sort of look at the world the same way you do, and why catalysts are pretty important, especially today's need for disruption and how to survive, also get their book. I'll have a link to that book, too. In fact, I think already have a link out on the homepage. Telling you man, you will not be disappointed. Great people. Great insight, great vision. All right, people before I dare greatly hang out with people like Tracey, and Shannon, and you're going to change the world. Thank you very much for joining industrial talk. We're going to have another great interview. Great conversation right around the corner. So stay tuned.

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In this week's Industrial Talk Podcast we're talking to Dave Lakin, CEO at Acacia Business Solutions about “Returning to the Workplace with a Focus on Honor, Truth and Integrity”.  Get the answers to your “Integrity Leadership” questions along with Dave's unique insight on the “How” on this Industrial Talk interview!

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00:04

Welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott MacKenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hard hat, grab your work boots, and let's get all right. Once again, thank you very much for joining the industrial talk podcast, the number one industrial related podcast in the universe. You know what came to mind as I was thinking over the weekend, you are the miracle, you are the hope. You are creators of dream you industrial, you know, hero, because you are bold, you're brave, you dare greatly. you innovate. You're changing lives, and you're changing the world. I don't think I'm overselling that one bit. All right. Dave Lakin is in the industrial talk hot seat. He is the CEO of Acacia business solutions. And we're going to be talking about honor, truth and integrity. bringing that back into your business, let's get cracking. Yeah, I was just thinking over the weekend. It's like, it's, if you're not, if you don't think that you're a hero, if you don't think that you're what you do is important. I want you to just recognize that you are the creator of miracles. It's because of your innovative thinking that you create miracles. It's because of your innovative thinking that you're creating hope. And it is because of your innovative thinking that you're creating dreams. And again, I yeah, I might be the biggest Gomer, for all things industrial. But I truly believe it, you need to believe it as well, because it's that important. And especially now, holy cow, there's a lot going on a lot of great stuff happening. pencil and paper time. Let's get cracking on that pencil and paper time. This is in Barcelona, this is a great event. Let's get back to normal. That's what I want to do. This is October 5 through the seventh. It is the IoT solutions World Congress been broadcasting there for the past couple of years, except for last year. And I'm just telling you IoT solutions World Congress, the industrial internet Consortium, they put on a fabulous, fabulous event. And of course, it's Barcelona, what can you say about that town? A lot, because it's great. All right, put that out there. That's October 5 through the seventh. The next event that I want you to put out there is the manufacturing and technology show. And this is in Cleveland, Ohio, Cleveland, Ohio, and this is November 9, through the 11th. And again, we were very fortunate last year to be able to go up to Cleveland. And it is a wonderful place with wonderful people. And I'm just excited that I'll be broadcasting from this particular event. And just, I don't know, man, it gets itchy to get like back into sort of the swing of things and start truly, truly celebrating the wonderful women and men of manufacturing the women of men of industry, the women of men of innovation, it doesn't really matter. Let's just begin that celebration because you deserve it. All right. Again, we are going to have a great conversation. Good, good interview, Keisha business solutions of the company, Dave like and that's L a k i n is the CEO. And I really enjoy the conversation about honoring, bring an honor and truth and integrity back into the workplace as we start to open doors back up. I think that that is a really wonderful thing. So enjoy this interview. Dave, welcome to the industrial talk podcast. Thank you very much for finding time in your busy schedule. Calling all the way from Huntsville, Alabama, got to share with us some great coaching insights wisdoms, for you listeners out there. So I am going to be absolutely jacked about this interview. As you know, I will Dave, background, give us a little 411 on who you are.

04:13

On March Scott, appreciate you inviting me to be here. I'm an executive coach. And I work with medium sized businesses to make them better, stronger, faster, more profitable, more efficient, and and to be more competitive and successful in the market.

04:30

How did you get into business coaching?

04:33

Well, I'm a licensed program manager and I'm a retired Navy Chief Petty Officer. And I finished up at never headquarters and went from there and the program management got burned out and decided that I really loved helping people like I did back in the Navy and transitioned into into coaching and been down for about eight years and I love every minute of it. So it's my full time gig.

05:00

Acacia is the business name, which is great. And you've been at it for what? eight plus years? You said? Eight years? Yes. Login. Alright. listeners, we're going to talk a little bit about a number of things. And so stay tuned state, like, state the issue here. What are you? What are we trying to solve with this conversation there? Dave? What are we trying to highlight? What is this, this this topic that we want to drive into, and I see it, but I want you to tell me about it.

05:37

The short Cliff's notes version is returning to the workplace from now everybody's been kind of sheltered in place. And we're, we're slowly getting back out there now. And in, you know, out of our home offices into the workplace. And you know, one of the things that the across the country we've been suffering with, for the last several years is, we're getting pretty hot and loose with the idea of truth and honesty and integrity. And, you know, that may work at home, but it doesn't work so well in the workplace, and especially with customers and vendors and things.

06:12

So it's been about a year, over a year, it just seems like it's dragging on, it seems like 10 years, FYI. But all of a sudden, you're right, that this is an interesting change that's taking place in the workplace. Companies have if they made it through the year, they're surviving, and they're trying to rebuild, and they're trying to prosper in this, whatever that next normal is. But you've identified this whole principle of honor, truth and integrity, why what's what's taken place to where that has to be identified and highlighted. I don't

06:47

know, we all want to, we always want to put our best foot forward, right? And, and make ourselves look good to prospective hires, and to vendors and partners in the marketplace. And particularly to our customers, right, the people we're working with, even you know, in the contracts world, we want our customers to just love us. And so that takes us into exaggerating our capabilities, not performance, you know, where we've worked, what we've done, you know, in the, in the whole safety world, you know, we're just as safe as we can be, you know, and, but the reality of it is, maybe not so much. And, and so that's a, that's what we're struggling with. And we take it beyond that, you know, we call it exaggerating white lies, and business ethics, things like that. But at the end of the day, it's just not true. And so where do you draw the line on it? Right? Where do you Where do you say, that's just not true? We can't, we can't say that to our customers, because we have to be able to back it up with performance, right? You know, if we, if this is our safety record, then then that means nobody's gotten hurt, you know, nobody's smashed the foot, now, nobody's lost a hand, we got to be able to say that our capabilities of our product, you know, are great up to this point. But that, but that's where they drop off. We're working on it. But that's, that's our limit. And if that means you lose a contract, I would I would much rather lose a contract. Because it would have forced me to exceed our capabilities and put our future work in jeopardy. But also, you know, maybe potentially put lives in jeopardy, too, right? So yeah, but

08:26

here's the here's the dirty little secret, right? If I submit a RFP, me to you not to say, view you, but let's say business out there, and, and I'm looking for, I'm looking for price, right? I just don't because I'm still in a in a position of I'm trying to survive, I'm trying to keep my doors open. I'm trying to rebuild, I'm trying to figure out the way of being able to prosper in this next normal. And on both sides, I'm looking for cheap and on your, their, their side, they're looking for doing it, right. So there's this mutual and, and the other thing that is a dirty little secret, if I am truthful, like everybody should be, if I'm supposed to be driven by integrity. I'm going to I am going to, unfortunately, maybe reveal a little my dirty laundry and and, and lose, like you said lose opportunities, and I can't afford to do that. What do we do? How do we change that? What are what are some actionable items that we can sort of leverage?

09:32

Well, that's that's a real problem. Right? You know, yeah, absolutely. So so what happens is, you read the you read the requirements of the contract, and then you build a proposal that that absolutely, at the very minimum, if I'm just barely meeting the requirements, this contract, then it's going to cost this much. Right. But But you know, and I know and the contractor knows the sponsor knows that that this can be 100 change orders, you know, so so this is what change orders cost, it's what you know, you usually have to put up, this is what man hours cost at these different levels. This is what materials cost, this is what research and development costs. And, and so you have to lay out all these other things. And they're going to compare you against the reality of the people they're used to working with. But I would much rather come in on on truth and integrity, because, you know, you're fighting against somebody, they might have three other guys lined up who have done this work for them before. But those three other guys also have a reputation they carry with them. Right. So yeah, they do good work. Yeah, they get done on time. But, you know, we get eaten alive and change orders, and things like that. So, you know, even if you're the new guy, if you come in with a spirit of honesty and truth and integrity, and say, This is what it's going to cost a minimum meet the, this RFP. But this is my, you know, my ala carte set of fees, that, you know, we're likely to walk into, if change orders occur, and they always occur. You know, most contractors know that the the real money's in the change orders, right?

11:13

Ah,

11:15

yeah, that is the case. So a couple of analogies here, one. Here in Louisiana, we have the causeway bridge, and there was a big project that was awarded to a particular contractor. I don't know the details of it, but that particular contract is in dispute. And the reason it's in dispute is that we naturally, we, the majority of people gravitate to the it's a commoditized market out there to a certain extent. So I'm going to gravitate to the cheapest provider, unfortunately, it's just a commoditized market. Well, that is a problem they use. From what I understand pour equipment they're trying to cut around, they're trying to make their margins are doing everything they can. It is a failure on both parts. Right. So with that said, I hear what you're saying day, Dave, and I and I'm all just like, Yeah, he's right. It's got to be about honor and truth and integrity. How do I, how do I communicate that with perspectives, prospects that I'm a, I'm a good person, my company's a good company, and we're going to, might be a little bit more but man, we're gonna deliver what do we do?

12:31

Yeah, everybody says that, though, right? So it's not like you're coming up with a new concept. No. Everybody wants to project this, this image of Look, man, you can you can trust this business is built on, on truth and trust and, you know, know, like, and trust, right? Yeah. And so, so we all go in with that position. But it's, it's the, you know, how did you end up at the end of the project, right? Normally, you're gonna have a meeting at the end of the project that wraps it all up, and says that you met all the requirements of the project. And, and, and you, that's where you get to ask the customer. So how did we do? Right? You get that customer feedback. And, you know, unless you're a brand new company, you have you have a history of that customer feedback, good and bad, you know, not every project is just going to go swimmingly, right? So you're going to have that history of feedback. So you can you can show this new customer that you've never worked for before. Look, I've worked for these 10 other companies and the Closeout project, we got these kinds of statements, loved working with them, you know, they did everything they said they were going to do which, just that right there would be amazing, right? They did everything they said they were gonna do they did on time on budget. And, and, and the project turned out great, just like we had hoped it would. So you know, so that's one thing is, is being able to show that history of great performance, right. But also in your day to day dealings, you know, when people can smell fear, they can smell desperation, they can smell I often, you know, we have we have these physical cues when we're lying, you know, tend to touch your face and look away from somebody and, and you stammer over the response to a question because, you know, the truth is too painful to tell you. Even if we even if we can't put our finger on what what a lie looks like, instinctively. Intuitively, we know what a lie looks like. We can tell when someone's lying to us. So we're fudge truth. Well, much in the plain, white lies, white lies, right? You your boss has been, you know, two days a week he's been stepping out of the office, right is don't tell his wife that he's been stepping out of the office. Right. And and you know, the reality is he's taking dance lessons so you can surprise her on her 25th anniversary, but we don't want her to know that he's been stabbed But out of the office, right? So she calls and says, where's Henry? And you say, Well, he's at the worksite. I can't I can't get him right now. Well, it's a lie. Right? So those kinds of lies, nobody gets hurt, it's not a big deal. Fine. Could you come up with something else you haven't got put on the spot. So white lies, whatever. The truth can be painful, right? The customer calls and says, hey, how come you guys weren't out on site yesterday. And the truth is, because we overbooked ourselves, and we didn't have enough manpower to be out on site there. So we were on the other side, even though said we were going to be, but the answer that you give the customer as well, our foreman was out sick, we had two other guys had COVID. And we just weren't able to get up there. You know, when when did the lies stop. And we get back to truth and honesty with our customers. We just weren't able to get out there yesterday, we're planning on putting on extra hours or whatever the response is. But, you know, at some point, we got to draw the line and say, how far we're willing to go. When you make mission vision, core value statements for your business. It's all about who we are, what we do, and what we're willing to do for business and what we're not willing to do for business. And, and integrity has to be taken into account. They're in the military, when, you know, when I was growing up in the Navy integrity was one of our core values. And they, you know, early on in my career, they the Navy redid their core values, and it just want to honor courage and commitment. And I thought it was a real failing, they took out integrity. But you know, you have to have core values in your business, you have to, you know, you have to know what they are how you define them, your people have to know what they are. And your customers have to know. They have to see it in your day to day work, even if they don't know the words.

16:52

I believe and correct me if I'm wrong, Dave, I think there is a level of desperation out there that we want to stay alive, that the market is tight. There's a lot of factors impacting the economy got it. Understand. I think COVID as a whole has given us the approval to be vulnerable, to a certain extent. I'm not perfect. I'm not, you know, a superhero. In a sense, I have challenges. And to your point, I think it's, it's more beneficial. To be truthful in saying, I don't have the people I don't have I have people that are missing just because of XYZ, whatever it is, I think your customers can understand it today. Maybe pre virus, no. Post virus, yes, they can understand it. And, you know, put your adult pants on and we want to succeed. I don't think the statistics with these projects are ideal. I think that every project to a certain extent, has suboptimal results, whatever that looks like, but it happens all the time. But, but I think, to your point, if we, if we're driven by that, we can have these conversations, we can eat that Humble Pie a little bit better. And and yeah, it's not fun, but it has to happen. If we're truly wanting to succeed and flourish into the future. I think we have to do that. That's just my my two cents.

18:34

I agree with you. 100%. But you know, look at your, your, your Scott MacKenzie from the clan, MacKenzie, your type looking guy, you know, I'm, I'm retired Navy chief and, and, you know, we just, you know, we don't want to admit our weaknesses and failings and stuff to everybody. You don't want to wear him when you sleep. But, you know, I agree with you absolutely. Just got a man up sometimes and, and be able to go and say, you know, we didn't get it, we didn't get it done. We were supposed to yesterday, we're gonna go back and do a little redo. We're gonna get it right. You can count on us for that might take a little bit longer, but it'll be right when we hand project over to you.

19:12

It's interesting in industry, unfortunately, we always have all the answers, whether we have the answers or not. But we have all the answers, right? We have the solutions. We have the direction we have the you know, the golden goose, you know, and we just, it's it was just baked into the culture. Nobody. Nobody was vulnerable. Nobody said, that's, that's a job. Yeah, I could do it. I could do that job. And so I like that, but here we are. We're trying to survive. We're trying to rebuild. What are the roadblocks, you're preaching to me? It's good. I want to survive. What are the roadblocks?

19:53

Well, let's look at the other way. What are the roadblocks to continuing the lies right? We lose trust, confidence and credibility across across the line people who sit across the table negotiating with us. They don't know if we're negotiating in good faith, because we've lied to them before and they just don't know. So number one, it makes it harder to get them to the table. So you lose customers, you lose employees, you give them all those expectations, when they're going to come to your company, they're going to be treated, you know, with dignity and respect or, or, or like a ditch digger, who knows, but you know, they're going to be treated in a certain way. And then when they're not treated, at least that well, then then they get upset. And sometimes they leave, they say, you know, 90 plus percent of the reason people leave a job is because they don't get along with their boss, because often, that's because the boss wasn't truthful with them. And of course, you lose revenue over all of it. So the roadblocks for continuing down the road of a lack of honesty and integrity could be greater than the roadblocks to just, you know, to being on a strike. Yet, if you're, if you're honest about it, you may not get the contract. But you may not end up over your head and performing badly in the project either. So, you know, which, which is more preferable, you know, from the time that you that you get awarded the contract until the start date of the of the work, can you make up that last ground for where you need to be to be able to do the work? Maybe. But in that time, we try to make up that last ground, you could be out there trying to get five other contracts that you are capable of doing.

21:32

It's an edge, I look at it. Of course, it's a people challenge, but it's also an education challenge. We don't talk about that we don't talk about the necessity in business. We do. Say we do. But do we mean it about integrity truth on are all those those? Well want to think that we're that way, right, though, don't want it all thinking, we've talked about it, we talk about it. But really, when the rubber meets the road, you're going to say yes, we can do it and try to figure out how to do it. And then during the process during the project during the whatever the work, you figure something else out, it's now, and I would imagine now is the time for bold leadership. And I think that what you're talking about is this is necessary for a vibrant business in the future. I don't have luxury of taking chances, I need to have it done right done right now. And if I have, if I have trust in what you're talking about, I feel better. I will always recognize that sure. Things happen within projects, you didn't know that you could, you couldn't remove that bolt or whatever, whatever it is, you can only say so much course. But still, if we take that position, take that level of vulnerability. I want to have that conversation that truthful, integrity driven conversation. It's great that I leave anything out there. Because I love it. I do I love what you're trying to do. And I love what it's all about. And I agree with you 100%. All right, listeners, we got a couple of things out there. We've got adding zeros, the five disciplines of online training, which is pretty cool. And then another one from adding zeros of five discipline assessments. So Dave, where do I go to get that?

23:40

Well, the The only condition on those is I would love to have a conversation with you about your business and, and where you are and where you're trying to get to, just to make sure that those things are appropriate for what it is you're trying to accomplish. And then I will send you a link. If I think on your on your show notes, you'll have my email address. They get in touch with me and we will set it all up. Looking forward to it.

24:05

All right, listeners, we're all about that education, collaboration and innovation. We got to be driven to that we've got to create a business of resiliency. And we've got to do it with a sense of integrity, honor, and truth. We just have got to do it. Dave is preaching to the choir right here. I love what you are doing and what you are talking about from a coaching perspective. Dave, thank you very much for being on the industrial talk podcast. It's been a pleasure. I really, really appreciate it. All right, listeners, we're gonna wrap it up on the other side. Remember, we're gonna have all the contact information for a day. Acacia Business Solutions is the business. He is the CEO got mad skills, his team out there. They want to make sure that you succeed. And again, it's all about education, collaboration, can't do it on your own. You need people like Dave, and innovation, you got to look at business from an innovative perspective. All right, thank you very much for joining. We're gonna wrap it up on the Other side you were listening to the industrial talk Podcast Network. Again, thank you Dave for being on the industrial talk podcast and sharing your insights and wisdom into you know, the, the need to bring back that honor, truth and integrity back into the workplace can love it. Everything will be out there at industrial talk.com all his contact information and take him up on that free stuff that he offered. All right, to recap, we've got the IoT solutions World Congress, October 5, through the seventh, Barcelona is a great location, love the location, as well as we've got the manufacturing and technology shown that is November 9, through the 11th. Those are must attend events, let's get best worlds back to sort of back to normal, whatever that might be. Let's make it happen. All right, you are the miracle. You are the dream makers. You are the light of hope. That's what an industrial heroes all about. And that's what you are all about. Thank you very much for what you're doing. hanging out with people who are bold, brave and daring greatly. I guarantee you're gonna have a wonderful time changing the world because that's where it's at industry is where it's at. All right, thank you. We're gonna have another great interview right around the corner. So stay tuned.

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In this week's Industrial Talk Podcast and in conjunction with IoT Solutions World Congress, we're talking to Bill Schmarzo – The Dean of Big Data about “The Dangers of Legacy Thinking and The Power of Hope in Innovation”. Get the answers to your “Culture of Empowerment and Culture of Innovation” questions along with Bill's unique insight on the “How” on this Industrial Talk interview!

You can find out more about Bill by the links below. Finally, get your exclusive free access to the Industrial Academy and a series on “Why You Need To Podcast” for Greater Success in 2020. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!

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On this week's Industrial Talk Podcast we're talking to Carlos Valdes-Dapena, Managing Principle at Corporate Collaboration Resources, LLC about What's wrong with typical team building and what we can do about it!

During this Podcast episode, Carlos talks about the 4-points that will unlock the keys to better collaboration:

1. To get achievement-driven employees – the kind we all love to hire – collaborating, you have to structure collaboration so that it feels as satisfying as doing the individual work they were hired, and usually love, to do.
2. The first step in framing collaboration this way is defining a clear and compelling “Why”, clarify why working with someone else, or a group, is worth the added complexity and potential conflict; why collaborating will be better than just doing it myself.
3. Once the “why” is clear, then you will need to crystallize the “What.” What are the specific tasks we need to collaborate on. And, which tasks DON'T require collaboration and that are better done by capable individuals.
4. Applying the principles to teams working remotely is especially important. Clarifying your team's Why and What creates a sense of team identity that will bond the team even when they can't be together.

Learn more about Carlos and how to achieve the power of Collaboration by the links below and on this podcast:

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Personal LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlos-valdes-dapena/

Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/corporate-collaboration-resources-llc/

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