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		<title>Tom Fletcher with Projective</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Industrial Talk is talking to Tom Fletcher, Sr. Project Manager at Projective Engineering about "Utility management and optimization".</p>
<p>Scott Mackenzie introduces Elevotec's ERP, EAM, and business intelligence solutions, emphasizing their ROI and expertise. He then welcomes Tom Fletcher from Projective Engineering, discussing asset management and utilities. Tom shares his background in utilities and Projective's focus on optimizing utility operations. They discuss the challenges of managing aging assets, the importance of proactive maintenance, and the role of AI in improving efficiency. Tom highlights Projective's role in helping clients achieve sustainability goals and manage risks. Scott stresses the need for industry professionals to inspire the next generation and effectively communicate the industry's value.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="cfm-player-iframe" style="width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid #d6d6d6;"><iframe style="width: 100%; height: 170px;" frameborder="no" scrolling="no" seamless allow="autoplay" src="https://player.captivate.fm/e0f107f1-bb76-4eb2-934c-e4c49f578dff"></iframe></div><p><strong><em>Industrial Talk </em></strong>is talking to <strong>Tom Fletcher, Sr. Project Manager at Projective Engineering </strong>about &#8220;Utility management and optimization&#8221;<strong>.</strong></p>
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<p>Scott Mackenzie introduces Elevotec's ERP, EAM, and business intelligence solutions, emphasizing their ROI and expertise. He then welcomes Tom Fletcher from Projective Engineering, discussing asset management and utilities. Tom shares his background in utilities and Projective's focus on optimizing utility operations. They discuss the challenges of managing aging assets, the importance of proactive maintenance, and the role of AI in improving efficiency. Tom highlights Projective's role in helping clients achieve sustainability goals and manage risks. Scott stresses the need for industry professionals to inspire the next generation and effectively communicate the industry's value.</p>
<h2>Outline</h2>
<h3>Introduction to Elevotec and Industrial Talk Podcast</h3>
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<li>Scott Mackenzie introduces Elevotec, highlighting their ERP, EAM, and business intelligence solutions.</li>
<li>Scott Mackenzie welcomes listeners to the Industrial Talk Podcast, emphasizing the celebration of industry professionals.</li>
<li>Scott introduces Tom Fletcher from Projective Engineering, focusing on asset management and utilities.</li>
<li>Scott shares a personal anecdote about consulting for a utility company and the challenges of managing assets proactively.</li>
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<h3>Tom Fletcher's Background and Projective Engineering</h3>
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<li>Tom Fletcher shares his background as a mechanical engineer and his experience with a large pharmaceutical firm.</li>
<li>Tom discusses his transition to Projective Engineering and their focus on utilities and energy management.</li>
<li>Scott and Tom discuss the importance of asset management and the challenges of maintaining aging infrastructure.</li>
<li>Tom highlights Projective Engineering's role in helping clients optimize their utility operations and manage their assets more efficiently.</li>
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<h3>Challenges in Utility Management and the Role of Technology</h3>
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<li>Tom discusses the challenges of managing aging assets and the importance of proactive maintenance.</li>
<li>Scott and Tom talk about the role of technology in improving efficiency and reducing costs in utility management.</li>
<li>Tom mentions the use of AI and advanced technologies to optimize chiller dispatch and other utility operations.</li>
<li>Scott emphasizes the need for industry professionals to communicate the importance of asset management and the risks of deferred maintenance.</li>
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<h3>The Importance of Inspiring the Next Generation</h3>
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<li>Scott discusses the need for industry professionals to inspire the next generation by telling their stories and highlighting the exciting aspects of their work.</li>
<li>Scott shares his thoughts on the importance of being comfortable with sharing industry experiences and the benefits of doing so.</li>
<li>Scott emphasizes the role of social media and other platforms in reaching out to young professionals and promoting the industry.</li>
<li>Scott encourages listeners to connect with him and Projective Engineering to learn more about their work and opportunities in the industry.</li>
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<h3>Tom Fletcher's Perspective on AI and Technology in Utilities</h3>
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<li>Tom discusses the potential of AI in managing utility assets and the importance of using technology to improve efficiency.</li>
<li>Tom shares examples of how Projective Engineering helps clients optimize their utility operations and reduce costs.</li>
<li>Scott and Tom talk about the challenges of implementing new technologies and the importance of a cautious approach.</li>
<li>Tom emphasizes the need for continuous training and education to keep up with technological advancements in the industry.</li>
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<h3>The Role of Education and Training in the Industry</h3>
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<li>Scott and Tom discuss the importance of education and training in preparing the next generation of industry professionals.</li>
<li>Tom shares his experience with a professor who emphasized the importance of adapting to change and continuous learning.</li>
<li>Scott highlights the need for the education system to keep up with the rapid pace of technological advancements.</li>
<li>Tom and Scott agree on the importance of inspiring young professionals to pursue careers in the industry and the role of storytelling in promoting the industry.</li>
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<h3>Conclusion and Call to Action</h3>
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<li>Scott wraps up the conversation by emphasizing the importance of inspiring the next generation and telling the industry's story.</li>
<li>Scott encourages listeners to connect with Tom and Projective Engineering to learn more about their work and opportunities in the industry.</li>
<li>Scott reiterates the importance of being comfortable with sharing industry experiences and the benefits of doing so.</li>
<li>Scott thanks Tom for the conversation and invites listeners to reach out to him and Projective Engineering for more information.</li>
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<p>If interested in being on the Industrial Talk show, simply <strong><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/contact/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">contact us</a></strong> and let's have a quick conversation.</p>
<p>Finally, get your exclusive free access to the <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Industrial Academy</a> and a series on “<a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Why You Need To Podcast</strong></a>” for Greater Success in 2026. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!</p>
<h2>TOM FLETCHER'S CONTACT INFORMATION:</h2>
<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-fletcher-305a2575/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-fletcher-305a2575/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/projectiveengineering/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/projectiveengineering/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company Website:</strong> <a href="https://projectiveengineering.com/us/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://projectiveengineering.com/us/</a></p>
<h2>PODCAST VIDEO:</h2>
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<h2>THE STRATEGIC REASON &#8220;WHY YOU NEED TO PODCAST&#8221;:</h2>
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<h2>OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES:</h2>
<p><strong>NEOM</strong>: <a href="https://www.neom.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.neom.com/en-us</a></p>
<p><strong>Hexagon:</strong> <a href="https://hexagon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://hexagon.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Arduino:</strong> <a href="https://www.arduino.cc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.arduino.cc/</a></p>
<p><strong>Fictiv:</strong> <a href="https://www.fictiv.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.fictiv.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara:</strong> <a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Marketing Solutions:</strong>  <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Academy:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Dojo:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/</a></p>
<p><strong>We the 15:</strong><a href="https://www.wethe15.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.wethe15.org/</a></p>
<h2>YOUR INDUSTRIAL DIGITAL TOOLBOX:</h2>
<p><strong>LifterLMS:</strong> Get One Month Free for $1 – <a href="https://lifterlms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://lifterlms.com/</a></p>
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<p><strong>Social Jukebox:</strong> <a href="https://www.socialjukebox.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.socialjukebox.com/</a></p>
<h2>Industrial Academy (One Month Free Access And One Free License For Future Industrial Leader):</h2>
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<h2>Business Beatitude the Book</h2>
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		<title>Ben Lanz with Osmose</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott MacKenzie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2025 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Industrial Talk is onsite at DistribuTech 2025 and talking to Ben Lanz, Sr. Director, Industry &#038; External Affairs at Osmose about "Power reliability and resiliency".</p>
<p>Scott Mackenzie interviews Ben Lanz from Osmose, discussing the challenges and innovations in the utility industry. They highlight the aging infrastructure in Texas, with ERCOT needing gigawatts for data centers. Osmose has expanded from wood pole diagnostics to underground assessments, including vaults, transformers, and cables. Ben explains the use of AI and machine learning to improve efficiency, particularly in detecting defects in underground cables. They also discuss the importance of human intervention alongside AI for accurate assessments. Ben provides his contact information for further inquiries.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="cfm-player-iframe" style="width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid #d6d6d6;"><iframe style="width: 100%; height: 170px;" frameborder="no" scrolling="no" seamless allow="autoplay" src="https://player.captivate.fm/30d2a4b2-9d98-4c02-919a-e06170c018bc"></iframe></div><p><strong><em>Industrial Talk </em></strong>is onsite at <a href="https://www.distributech.com/">DistribuTech 2025</a> and talking to <strong>Ben Lanz, Sr. Director, Industry & External Affairs at Osmose </strong>about &#8220;Power reliability and resiliency&#8221;<strong>.</strong></p>
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<p>Scott Mackenzie interviews Ben Lanz from Osmose, discussing the challenges and innovations in the utility industry. They highlight the aging infrastructure in Texas, with ERCOT needing gigawatts for data centers. Osmose has expanded from wood pole diagnostics to underground assessments, including vaults, transformers, and cables. Ben explains the use of AI and machine learning to improve efficiency, particularly in detecting defects in underground cables. They also discuss the importance of human intervention alongside AI for accurate assessments. Ben provides his contact information for further inquiries.</p>
<h2>Action Items</h2>
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<li>[ ] @Scott MacKenzie &#8211; Investigate Osmose's use of AI and machine learning in their diagnostic processes.</li>
<li>[ ] Connect with Ben Lanz on LinkedIn or at ben.lanz@osmose.com to discuss potential collaboration opportunities.</li>
<li>[ ] Explore Osmose's capabilities in assessing and upgrading aging utility infrastructure.</li>
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<h2>Outline</h2>
<h3>Introduction and Welcome</h3>
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<li>Scott MacKenzie introduces the Industrial Talk Podcast, highlighting its focus on industry professionals and innovations.</li>
<li>Scott welcomes listeners and thanks them for their support, emphasizing the platform's celebration of bold and innovative professionals.</li>
<li>The podcast is broadcasting live from Distribute Tech in Dallas, Texas, with Scott expressing excitement about the event and the guests.</li>
<li>Scott introduces Ben Lanz from Osmose, hinting at a deep dive into industry topics and challenges.</li>
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<h3>Discussion on Texas Infrastructure and ERCOT</h3>
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<li>Ben Lanz discusses the significant challenges faced by Texas, particularly in the utility business, with ERCOT looking for gigawatts of power for data centers.</li>
<li>Scott and Ben talk about the aging infrastructure in Texas, with Scott sharing his experience of working with transmission lines built in 1916.</li>
<li>Ben mentions the challenges of upgrading aging infrastructure and the need for innovative solutions to meet the growing demand.</li>
<li>The conversation touches on the importance of collaboration and innovation in addressing these infrastructure issues.</li>
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<h3>Osmose's Role in Infrastructure Diagnostics and Upgrades</h3>
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<li>Ben explains Osmose's long-standing presence in the industry, focusing on diagnostics and upgrades for wood poles and other infrastructure.</li>
<li>Osmose has expanded its portfolio to include underground assessments, covering vaults, transformers, cables, and low-voltage wiring.</li>
<li>Ben shares his background in dielectrics and how Osmose is leveraging expertise in various areas to help utilities maintain and upgrade their assets.</li>
<li>The discussion highlights the importance of having a deep understanding of deterioration mechanisms and effective upgrade strategies.</li>
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<h3>Challenges and Solutions in Underground Cable Testing</h3>
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<li>Scott and Ben delve into the challenges of testing underground cables, particularly in detecting deterioration mechanisms.</li>
<li>Ben explains the limitations of past testing methods and the advancements in technology that allow for more accurate assessments.</li>
<li>The conversation covers the use of partial discharge tests and the importance of digitally filtering background noise to detect microarching.</li>
<li>Ben describes the process of locating defects in cables and the significance of meeting industry standards for quality control.</li>
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<h3>AI and Machine Learning in Utility Grid Inspections</h3>
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<li>Ben discusses the early adoption of AI and machine learning by Osmos, emphasizing the importance of having a clean dataset for effective training.</li>
<li>The use of AI has significantly improved the efficiency of diagnostics, reducing the need for extensive human analysis.</li>
<li>Ben highlights the collaboration between Osmos and other companies like Brian Reed and NEERA to further advance AI applications in the industry.</li>
<li>The conversation touches on the future of AI, with a focus on making advanced technologies more accessible in the field.</li>
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<h3>Future of AI and Efficiency in Utility Grid Management</h3>
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<li>Ben envisions the continued evolution of AI, with a focus on making advanced technologies more accessible in the field.</li>
<li>The discussion includes the potential for AI to enhance the efficiency of utility grid management and maintenance.</li>
<li>Scott and Ben agree on the importance of human intervention in conjunction with AI to ensure accurate and reliable assessments.</li>
<li>The conversation concludes with a discussion on the broader implications of AI and machine learning for the utility industry.</li>
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<h3>Closing Remarks and Contact Information</h3>
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<li>Scott MacKenzie wraps up the conversation, emphasizing the importance of connecting with industry professionals like Ben Lanz.</li>
<li>Ben provides his contact information, encouraging listeners to reach out for further discussions and collaboration.</li>
<li>Scott encourages listeners to leverage social platforms and the Industrial Talk Podcast to share their stories and connect with others in the industry.</li>
<li>The podcast concludes with a reminder of the importance of innovation, collaboration, and efficiency in addressing the challenges of aging infrastructure.</li>
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<p>If interested in being on the Industrial Talk show, simply <strong><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/contact/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">contact us</a></strong> and let's have a quick conversation.</p>
<p>Finally, get your exclusive free access to the <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Industrial Academy</a> and a series on “<a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Why You Need To Podcast</strong></a>” for Greater Success in 2025. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!</p>
<h2>BEN LANZ'S CONTACT INFORMATION:</h2>
<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminlanz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminlanz/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company LinkedIn:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/osmose/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/osmose/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company Website:</strong> <a href="https://www.osmose.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.osmose.com/</a></p>
<h2>PODCAST VIDEO:</h2>
<p><iframe loading="lazy" title="Ben Lanz | Osmose | DistribuTech | Power reliability and resiliency" width="500" height="281" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/6Y9nKzhOK3M?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<h2>THE STRATEGIC REASON &#8220;WHY YOU NEED TO PODCAST&#8221;:</h2>
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<h2>OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES:</h2>
<p><strong>NEOM</strong>: <a href="https://www.neom.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.neom.com/en-us</a></p>
<p><strong>Hexagon:</strong> <a href="https://hexagon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://hexagon.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Arduino:</strong> <a href="https://www.arduino.cc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.arduino.cc/</a></p>
<p><strong>Fictiv:</strong> <a href="https://www.fictiv.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.fictiv.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara:</strong> <a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Marketing Solutions:</strong>  <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Academy:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Dojo:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/</a></p>
<p><strong>We the 15:</strong><a href="https://www.wethe15.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.wethe15.org/</a></p>
<h2>YOUR INDUSTRIAL DIGITAL TOOLBOX:</h2>
<p><strong>LifterLMS:</strong> Get One Month Free for $1 – <a href="https://lifterlms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://lifterlms.com/</a></p>
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<h2>Industrial Academy (One Month Free Access And One Free License For Future Industrial Leader):</h2>
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<h2>Business Beatitude the Book</h2>
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<p class="ql-align-center"><strong>TAP INTO YOUR INDUSTRIAL SOUL, RESERVE YOUR COPY NOW! BE BOLD. BE BRAVE. DARE GREATLY AND CHANGE THE WORLD. GET THE BUSINESS BEATITUDES!</strong></p>
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		<title>Maura Nespoli with Prysmian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott MacKenzie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2025 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Industrial Talk is onsite at DistribuTech 2025 and talking to Maura Nespoli, Vice President at Prysmian about "Cabling solution for energy transition".</p>
<p>Scott Mackenzie interviews Maura Nespoli, VP of Sales and Renewable and Sustainable Solutions at Prysmian, a leading cable industry company. Maura discusses Prisma's role in the energy transition, focusing on solar and wind farm solutions. She highlights the company's innovative technologies, such as the eatery X technology, which can reduce energy losses by 30% and CO2 emissions by 25%. Maura emphasizes the importance of digitalization in data centers and the need for sustainable practices in cable manufacturing. She also notes the significant demand for cables in the US, particularly in the data center market, and the challenges of meeting this demand while maintaining efficiency and sustainability.</p>
<p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://industrialtalk.com/episodes/maura-nespoli-prysmian/">Maura Nespoli with Prysmian</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://industrialtalk.com">Industrial Talk</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="cfm-player-iframe" style="width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid #d6d6d6;"><iframe style="width: 100%; height: 170px;" frameborder="no" scrolling="no" seamless allow="autoplay" src="https://player.captivate.fm/45265815-3de2-4e17-9d19-3d4a72fe8c4b"></iframe></div><p><strong><em>Industrial Talk </em></strong>is onsite at <a href="https://www.distributech.com/">DistribuTech 2025</a> and talking to <strong>Maura Nespoli, Vice President at Prysmian </strong>about &#8220;<span class="OYPEnA font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none">Cabling solution for energy transition</span>&#8220;<strong>.</strong></p>
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<p>Scott Mackenzie interviews Maura Nespoli, VP of Sales and Renewable and Sustainable Solutions at Prysmian, a leading cable industry company. Maura discusses Prisma's role in the energy transition, focusing on solar and wind farm solutions. She highlights the company's innovative technologies, such as the eatery X technology, which can reduce energy losses by 30% and CO2 emissions by 25%. Maura emphasizes the importance of digitalization in data centers and the need for sustainable practices in cable manufacturing. She also notes the significant demand for cables in the US, particularly in the data center market, and the challenges of meeting this demand while maintaining efficiency and sustainability.</p>
<h2>Action Items</h2>
<ul>
<li>[ ] @Scott MacKenzie &#8211; Connect with Maura on LinkedIn to learn more about Prysmian's sustainable cable solutions.</li>
<li>[ ] Explore opportunities to leverage existing infrastructure and optimize efficiency rather than just building new transmission lines.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Outline</h2>
<h3>Introduction and Welcome to Industrial Talk Podcast</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie welcomes listeners to the Industrial Talk Podcast, emphasizing the importance of industry professionals and their contributions.</li>
<li>Scott mentions the sponsorship by Siemens and encourages listeners to visit siemens.com for more information.</li>
<li>The podcast is broadcasting live from Distribute Tech in Dallas, Texas, where industry professionals gather to discuss utilities, transmission, and distribution.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Introduction of Maura Nespoli and Her Role</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott introduces Maura Nespoli, who is in the hot seat for the interview.</li>
<li>Maura confirms her attendance at the conference and mentions she is from Kentucky, not Milan.</li>
<li>Scott and Maura discuss their experiences with bourbon, with Maura expressing her uncertainty about it.</li>
<li>Maura provides a brief background about her company, Prysmian, which is leading the cable industry.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Maura's Background and Role at Prysmian</h3>
<ul>
<li>Maura shares that she is from Italy and has been working in the cable industry for seven years.</li>
<li>She explains her role as VP of Sales and Renewable and Sustainable Solutions at Prysmian.</li>
<li>Maura elaborates on the importance of the cable industry in the energy transition, focusing on solar and wind farm solutions.</li>
<li>She discusses the company's focus on innovation, digitalization, and sustainability, including reducing CO2 emissions and promoting recyclability.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Digitalization and Innovation in the Cable Industry</h3>
<ul>
<li>Maura explains how digitalization plays a key role in the data center market, which is growing rapidly.</li>
<li>She describes the combination of large cables needed in data centers and those related to digitalization.</li>
<li>Scott and Maura discuss the various types of cables Prysmian deals with, including transmission, distribution, and specialty cables.</li>
<li>Maura highlights the importance of innovation in keeping up with the fast-paced market and the company's efforts to stay ahead.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Sustainability and Innovation in Cable Manufacturing</h3>
<ul>
<li>Maura discusses the company's approach to sustainability, including reducing CO2 emissions and promoting recyclability.</li>
<li>She explains the role of R&D in building cables that are more sustainable and efficient.</li>
<li>Maura introduces the company's eatery X technology, which can increase ampacity by 25% and reduce energy losses by 30%.</li>
<li>She emphasizes the combination of technology and raw materials to achieve significant reductions in energy losses and CO2 emissions.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Challenges and Opportunities in the Cable Industry</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott and Maura discuss the challenges of meeting the growing demand for cables, especially in the data center market.</li>
<li>Maura mentions the US Energy Department's requirement for 47,000 miles of new transmission lines to meet energy demand.</li>
<li>They compare the demand in the US with that in Europe, noting the significant difference in the data center market.</li>
<li>Maura highlights the importance of innovation in leveraging existing infrastructure and meeting the growing demand for cables.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Future of the Cable Industry and Contact Information</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott asks Maura about the future of the cable industry and the role of innovation in meeting the growing demand.</li>
<li>Maura emphasizes the need for innovation and the potential to work with existing infrastructure to meet the demand.</li>
<li>Scott inquires about the best way to contact Maura, and she mentions her presence on LinkedIn.</li>
<li>Scott concludes the interview by highlighting Maura's impressive background and encouraging listeners to connect with her on LinkedIn.</li>
</ul>
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<p>If interested in being on the Industrial Talk show, simply <strong><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/contact/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">contact us</a></strong> and let's have a quick conversation.</p>
<p>Finally, get your exclusive free access to the <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Industrial Academy</a> and a series on “<a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Why You Need To Podcast</strong></a>” for Greater Success in 2025. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!</p>
<h2>MAURA NESPOLI'S CONTACT INFORMATION:</h2>
<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maura-nespoli-gemba-0163b24/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/maura-nespoli-gemba-0163b24/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company LinkedIn:</strong>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/prysmian/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/prysmian/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company Website:</strong> <a href="https://www.prysmian.com/en" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.prysmian.com/en</a></p>
<h2>PODCAST VIDEO:</h2>
<p><iframe loading="lazy" title="Maura Nespoli | Prysmian | @distributechinternational8792 | Energy Cabling solutions" width="500" height="281" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3Svc1IdGkAM?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<h2>THE STRATEGIC REASON &#8220;WHY YOU NEED TO PODCAST&#8221;:</h2>
<p><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Why-you-need-to-Podcast-Graphic-2.png" width="1024" height="538" /></a></p>
<h2>OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES:</h2>
<p><strong>NEOM</strong>: <a href="https://www.neom.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.neom.com/en-us</a></p>
<p><strong>Hexagon:</strong> <a href="https://hexagon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://hexagon.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Arduino:</strong> <a href="https://www.arduino.cc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.arduino.cc/</a></p>
<p><strong>Fictiv:</strong> <a href="https://www.fictiv.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.fictiv.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara:</strong> <a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Marketing Solutions:</strong>  <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Academy:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Dojo:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/</a></p>
<p><strong>We the 15:</strong><a href="https://www.wethe15.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.wethe15.org/</a></p>
<h2>YOUR INDUSTRIAL DIGITAL TOOLBOX:</h2>
<p><strong>LifterLMS:</strong> Get One Month Free for $1 – <a href="https://lifterlms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://lifterlms.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Active Campaign:</strong> <a href="https://www.activecampaign.com/?_r=H855VEPU" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Active Campaign Link</a></p>
<p><strong>Social Jukebox:</strong> <a href="https://www.socialjukebox.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.socialjukebox.com/</a></p>
<h2>Industrial Academy (One Month Free Access And One Free License For Future Industrial Leader):</h2>
<p><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Industrial-Academy-Graphic.png" width="1024" height="538" /></a></p>
<h2>Business Beatitude the Book</h2>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/BB-Book-Cover.png" width="138" height="215" /></p>
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<p class="ql-align-center"><strong>TAP INTO YOUR INDUSTRIAL SOUL, RESERVE YOUR COPY NOW! BE BOLD. BE BRAVE. DARE GREATLY AND CHANGE THE WORLD. GET THE BUSINESS BEATITUDES!</strong></p>
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		<title>Paul Bernard with ARCOS</title>
		<link>https://industrialtalk.com/episodes/paul-bernard-with-arcos-inc/</link>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott MacKenzie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2025 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Industrial Talk is onsite at DistribuTech 2025 and talking to Paul Bernard, President/CEO at ARCOS about "Scaling technology companies for long-term success".</p>
<p>Scott MacKenzie hosts the Industrial Talk podcast, featuring Paul Bernard, President and CEO of ARCOS, a company that helps utilities manage call-outs, crew management, and damage assessment. Arcos' solutions integrate with various systems like asset management and GIS to provide linemen with real-time, situational awareness, enhancing safety and efficiency. The company, backed by Vista, has grown significantly, integrating acquisitions like Clearion for vegetation management. Arcos' platform is configurable and user-friendly, crucial for adoption by linemen. The company aims to expand beyond utilities into other industries with similar needs.</p>
<p>The post <a rel="nofollow" href="https://industrialtalk.com/episodes/paul-bernard-with-arcos-inc/">Paul Bernard with ARCOS</a> appeared first on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://industrialtalk.com">Industrial Talk</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="cfm-player-iframe" style="width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid #d6d6d6;"><iframe style="width: 100%; height: 170px;" frameborder="no" scrolling="no" seamless allow="autoplay" src="https://player.captivate.fm/0281f835-6986-4b0b-91ee-8dd8d1b676ec"></iframe></div><p><strong><em>Industrial Talk </em></strong>is onsite at <a href="https://www.distributech.com/">DistribuTech 2025</a> and talking to <strong>Paul Bernard, President/CEO at ARCOS </strong>about &#8220;<span class="OYPEnA font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none">Scaling technology companies for long-term success</span>&#8220;<strong>.</strong></p>
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<p>Scott MacKenzie hosts the Industrial Talk podcast, featuring Paul Bernard, President and CEO of ARCOS, a company that helps utilities manage call-outs, crew management, and damage assessment. Arcos' solutions integrate with various systems like asset management and GIS to provide linemen with real-time, situational awareness, enhancing safety and efficiency. The company, backed by Vista, has grown significantly, integrating acquisitions like Clearion for vegetation management. Arcos' platform is configurable and user-friendly, crucial for adoption by linemen. The company aims to expand beyond utilities into other industries with similar needs.</p>
<h2>Action Items</h2>
<ul>
<li>[ ] Explore expanding ARCOS' solutions to international markets.</li>
<li>[ ] Investigate acquiring a company to enhance ARCOS' vegetation management capabilities.</li>
<li>[ ] Make the Arcos platform more configurable and user-friendly for customers.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Outline</h2>
<h3>Introduction and Overview of Industrial Talk Podcast</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie introduces the Industrial Talk podcast, emphasizing its focus on industrial innovations and trends.</li>
<li>Scott mentions a free ebook and workbook available on Industrial Talk, highlighting five elements of successful companies: educate, collaborate, innovate, invest in culture, and communicate effectively.</li>
<li>Speaker 1 provides a brief introduction to Scott MacKenzie, describing him as a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting-edge industry innovations and trends.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie welcomes listeners to the Industrial Talk podcast, broadcasting from Distribute Tech in Dallas, Texas, and introduces Paul, the guest for the episode.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Paul Bernard's Background and Role at Arcos</h3>
<ul>
<li>Paul Bernard introduces himself as the president and CEO of ARCOS, joining the company eight months ago.</li>
<li>Paul shares his extensive experience in growing and developing companies, particularly in software, and his background in taking companies from $5 million to over $100 million in revenue.</li>
<li>Paul explains his role at Arcos, focusing on understanding markets, competition, and creating a competitive moat, as well as driving operational execution and scalability.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie asks Paul to elaborate on ARCOS, its history, and its current offerings.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Arcos' History and Solutions</h3>
<ul>
<li>Paul explains that ARCOS was founded 25 years ago to address the issue of call-out for utilities, particularly in situations where utility workers are needed at odd hours.</li>
<li>Arcos has sold its call-out solution to over 23 of the top 25 utilities in America, providing a plum job opportunity for young utility workers.</li>
<li>Paul discusses the acquisition of additional companies like Crew Manager, which helps manage resources and equipment once they are in the field.</li>
<li>ARCOS' solution integrates with various systems like asset management, workforce management, and outage management systems, providing linemen with situational awareness and the tools they need to work safely and effectively.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Integration and Safety Features of Arcos' Solutions</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie inquires about the agnostic nature of ARCOS' solutions and their ability to incorporate design requirements.</li>
<li>Paul confirms that ARCOS' solutions integrate with various systems, presenting information to linemen about different voltages, equipment, and other relevant details.</li>
<li>Paul emphasizes the importance of safety, particularly in de-energizing circuits, and shares a success story from Hurricane Helene where ARCOS' system helped avoid dangerous situations.</li>
<li>Paul highlights the mutual aid aspect of ARCOS' system, where different utilities can use the same system to coordinate restoration efforts, leading to significant lead generation for Arcos.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Challenges and Opportunities in the Utility Space</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie and Paul discuss the challenges and opportunities in the utility space, including the increasing demand for power due to data centers, AI, and climate change.</li>
<li>Paul explains the efficiency play that ARCOS offers, helping utilities manage their resources and infrastructure more effectively.</li>
<li>Scott and Paul discuss the importance of vegetation management, which typically consumes 30% of a utility's budget, and how Arcos' solutions can help with this.</li>
<li>Paul mentions the acquisition of Clearion, a company that helps with vegetation management, and the potential for future acquisitions to expand Arcos' capabilities.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Expansion and Configurability of Arcos' Platform</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie asks about the configurability of Arcos' platform and its potential to expand into other verticals.</li>
<li>Paul explains that the platform is configurable and that Arcos is looking at six different opportunities to expand its solutions.</li>
<li>Paul emphasizes the importance of simplicity and ease of use for Arcos' mobile app, especially for linemen working in challenging conditions.</li>
<li>Scott and Paul discuss the potential for Arcos' solutions to be used in other industries, such as pipeline and aviation, where coordinating field workers is crucial.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Final Thoughts and Contact Information</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie asks Paul about the contact information for ARCOS and how listeners can get in touch.</li>
<li>Paul provides the website and LinkedIn information for ARCOS and himself.</li>
<li>Scott wraps up the episode, expressing his excitement about the conversation and the potential of Arcos' solutions.</li>
<li>Scott promotes the Industrial Talk podcast and the Industrial News Network, encouraging listeners to support the platform and stay tuned for future conversations.</li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
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<p>If interested in being on the Industrial Talk show, simply <strong><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/contact/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">contact us</a></strong> and let's have a quick conversation.</p>
<p>Finally, get your exclusive free access to the <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Industrial Academy</a> and a series on “<a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Why You Need To Podcast</strong></a>” for Greater Success in 2025. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!</p>
<h2>PAUL BERNARD'S CONTACT INFORMATION:</h2>
<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulbernard2/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulbernard2/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company LinkedIn:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/arcos/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/arcos/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company Website:</strong> <a href="https://www.arcos-inc.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.arcos-inc.com/</a></p>
<h2>PODCAST VIDEO:</h2>
<p><iframe loading="lazy" title="Paul Brenard | Arcos Inc | @distributechinternational8792 | Focus on Vegetation Management" width="500" height="281" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gURnnD_40nA?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<h2>THE STRATEGIC REASON &#8220;WHY YOU NEED TO PODCAST&#8221;:</h2>
<p><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Why-you-need-to-Podcast-Graphic-2.png" width="1024" height="538" /></a></p>
<h2>OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES:</h2>
<p><strong>NEOM</strong>: <a href="https://www.neom.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.neom.com/en-us</a></p>
<p><strong>Hexagon:</strong> <a href="https://hexagon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://hexagon.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Arduino:</strong> <a href="https://www.arduino.cc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.arduino.cc/</a></p>
<p><strong>Fictiv:</strong> <a href="https://www.fictiv.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.fictiv.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara:</strong> <a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Marketing Solutions:</strong>  <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Academy:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Dojo:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/</a></p>
<p><strong>We the 15:</strong><a href="https://www.wethe15.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.wethe15.org/</a></p>
<h2>YOUR INDUSTRIAL DIGITAL TOOLBOX:</h2>
<p><strong>LifterLMS:</strong> Get One Month Free for $1 – <a href="https://lifterlms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://lifterlms.com/</a></p>
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<p><strong>Social Jukebox:</strong> <a href="https://www.socialjukebox.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.socialjukebox.com/</a></p>
<h2>Industrial Academy (One Month Free Access And One Free License For Future Industrial Leader):</h2>
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<h2>Business Beatitude the Book</h2>
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		<title>Alan Ross with APC Media</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott MacKenzie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2025 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Industrial Talk is onsite at DistribuTech 2025 and talking to Alan Ross, Managing Editor at APC Media about "Insights into the Dynamic Utility/Energy Market".</p>
<p>Scott MacKenzie and Alan Ross discuss the five elements of successful companies: education, collaboration, innovation, culture investment, and communication. They highlight the importance of trust and innovation in the power industry, noting Siemens' leadership. Ross emphasizes the need for condition-based maintenance and the formation of the Safety and Reliability Association (SARA) to address electrical safety and reliability. He also discusses the impact of renewable energy on the grid and the importance of promoting women in the industry. The conversation concludes with a call to action for industry professionals to engage with SARA and download free resources from Industrial Talk.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="cfm-player-iframe" style="width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid #d6d6d6;"><iframe style="width: 100%; height: 170px;" frameborder="no" scrolling="no" seamless allow="autoplay" src="https://player.captivate.fm/f2daad00-6d1a-4861-802d-4a218bfa0f4e"></iframe></div><p><strong><em>Industrial Talk </em></strong>is onsite at <a href="https://www.distributech.com/">DistribuTech 2025</a> and talking to <strong>Alan Ross, Managing Editor at APC Media </strong>about &#8220;<span class="OYPEnA font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none">Insights into the Dynamic Utility/Energy Market</span>&#8220;<strong>.</strong></p>
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<p>Scott MacKenzie and Alan Ross discuss the five elements of successful companies: education, collaboration, innovation, culture investment, and communication. They highlight the importance of trust and innovation in the power industry, noting Siemens' leadership. Ross emphasizes the need for condition-based maintenance and the formation of the Safety and Reliability Association (SARA) to address electrical safety and reliability. He also discusses the impact of renewable energy on the grid and the importance of promoting women in the industry. The conversation concludes with a call to action for industry professionals to engage with SARA and download free resources from Industrial Talk.</p>
<h2>Action Items</h2>
<ul>
<li>[ ] Reach out to Alan Ross (alan.ross@apc.media) to learn more about SARA and get involved.</li>
<li>[ ] Download the free ebook and workbook from industrial talk.</li>
<li>[ ] Explore the Siemens website (siemens.com) to learn about their smart infrastructure and grid software solutions.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Outline</h2>
<h3>Introduction and Podcast Overview</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie introduces the Industrial Talk podcast, emphasizing its focus on industry professionals and their innovations.</li>
<li>Scott mentions a free ebook and workbook available on Industrial Talk, highlighting five elements of successful companies: education, collaboration, innovation, culture investment, and effective communication.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie, describing him as a passionate industry professional dedicated to sharing innovations and trends.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie thanks listeners for their support and celebrates industry professionals for their boldness, bravery, and problem-solving skills.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Welcome to Distribute Tech and Siemens Sponsorship</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie welcomes listeners to Distribute Tech in Dallas, Texas, sponsored by Siemens Smart Infrastructure and Grid Software.</li>
<li>Scott and Alan Ross discuss their excitement about being at the event and their recent podcast appearances.</li>
<li>Scott and Alan Ross share light-hearted banter about their appearances and the importance of looking dapper in the industry.</li>
<li>Scott and Alan Ross discuss the busy nature of the event and the importance of smaller vendors in the industry.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Discussion on Trust and Innovation in the Power Industry</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie expresses concerns about finding trusted individuals in the renaissance of technology and innovation in the power generation and utilities sectors.</li>
<li>Alan Ross emphasizes the trustworthiness and character of people in the power industry, highlighting Siemens as a highly innovative company.</li>
<li>Alan Ross shares a saying about Siemens, &#8220;No one ever got fired for buying from Siemens,&#8221; and discusses the consolidation of major players in the industry.</li>
<li>Alan Ross explains the shift from transactional sales to problem-solving and the importance of listening to customer needs.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Renaissance in the Power Industry and Travel Opportunities</h3>
<ul>
<li>Alan Ross discusses the renaissance in the industrial, commercial, and utility power industry, noting its global impact.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie and Alan Ross talk about the travel opportunities in the industry and the exciting challenges it presents.</li>
<li>Alan Ross shares insights about his company, APC Media, and its operations in Croatia, highlighting the European tilt of their operations.</li>
<li>Alan Ross provides statistics about their readership, including the mix of professionals and the focus on various aspects of the power industry.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Promoting Women in the Power Industry</h3>
<ul>
<li>Speaker 3 discusses the importance of promoting women in the power industry and the challenges they face.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie and Speaker 3 talk about the Women in Clean Tech event they sponsored and the profile of women in power systems.</li>
<li>Alan Ross shares examples of women in significant positions of authority in the industry, emphasizing the need for more promotion and recognition.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie and Speaker 3 discuss the demand for individuals in the industry and the role of women in meeting this demand.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Formation of the Safety and Reliability Association</h3>
<ul>
<li>Alan Ross shares the story of forming the Safety and Reliability Association (SARA) after retiring from the Electric Power Reliability Alliance (EPRA).</li>
<li>The new organization aims to focus on electrical and mechanical safety and reliability, addressing the needs of the changing industry.</li>
<li>Alan Ross explains the board members and their roles, highlighting the importance of practical knowledge and better practices.</li>
<li>The first working group of SARA is focused on creating a gap analysis for implementing an Electrical Maintenance Program (EMP).</li>
</ul>
<h3>Condition-Based Maintenance and Electrical Asset Management</h3>
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<li>Scott MacKenzie and Alan Ross discuss the shift from time-based to condition-based maintenance for electrical assets.</li>
<li>Alan Ross explains the benefits of using data to identify and address issues in electrical equipment, saving time and money.</li>
<li>The importance of proactive maintenance to prevent equipment failure and improve overall reliability is emphasized.</li>
<li>Alan Ross highlights the impact of renewable energy sources on the grid and the need for clean power to avoid aging equipment prematurely.</li>
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<h3>Impact of Renewable Energy on the Grid</h3>
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<li>Alan Ross discusses the challenges posed by the influx of renewable energy sources and the need for clean power.</li>
<li>The conversion of DC power from renewable sources to AC for the grid introduces transients and harmonics that can impact industrial and commercial systems.</li>
<li>The importance of microgrids and the role of industrials and data centers in generating and managing power is highlighted.</li>
<li>Alan Ross emphasizes the need for an EMP program to address these challenges and improve the reliability and safety of electrical systems.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Conclusion and Contact Information</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie thanks Alan Ross for the conversation and highlights his influence and contributions to the industry.</li>
<li>Alan Ross provides his contact information for those interested in connecting with him or learning more about SARA.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie encourages listeners to reach out to Alan Ross and to download the free ebook and workbook available on Industrial Talk.</li>
<li>The podcast concludes with a reminder of the event sponsor, Siemens, and an invitation to stay tuned for future conversations.</li>
</ul>
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<p>If interested in being on the Industrial Talk show, simply <strong><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/contact/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">contact us</a></strong> and let's have a quick conversation.</p>
<p>Finally, get your exclusive free access to the <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Industrial Academy</a> and a series on “<a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Why You Need To Podcast</strong></a>” for Greater Success in 2025. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!</p>
<h2>ALAN ROSS' CONTACT INFORMATION:</h2>
<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amrstr179/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/amrstr179/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company Website:</strong> <a href="https://apc.media/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://apc.media/</a></p>
<h2>PODCAST VIDEO:</h2>
<p><iframe loading="lazy" title="Alan Ross | APC Media | DistribuTech | Insights Into The Distribution Market" width="500" height="281" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/J0tQ7ysDEhU?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<h2>THE STRATEGIC REASON &#8220;WHY YOU NEED TO PODCAST&#8221;:</h2>
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<h2>OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES:</h2>
<p><strong>NEOM</strong>: <a href="https://www.neom.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.neom.com/en-us</a></p>
<p><strong>Hexagon:</strong> <a href="https://hexagon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://hexagon.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Arduino:</strong> <a href="https://www.arduino.cc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.arduino.cc/</a></p>
<p><strong>Fictiv:</strong> <a href="https://www.fictiv.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.fictiv.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara:</strong> <a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Marketing Solutions:</strong>  <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Academy:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Dojo:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/</a></p>
<p><strong>We the 15:</strong><a href="https://www.wethe15.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.wethe15.org/</a></p>
<h2>YOUR INDUSTRIAL DIGITAL TOOLBOX:</h2>
<p><strong>LifterLMS:</strong> Get One Month Free for $1 – <a href="https://lifterlms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://lifterlms.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Active Campaign:</strong> <a href="https://www.activecampaign.com/?_r=H855VEPU" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Active Campaign Link</a></p>
<p><strong>Social Jukebox:</strong> <a href="https://www.socialjukebox.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.socialjukebox.com/</a></p>
<h2>Industrial Academy (One Month Free Access And One Free License For Future Industrial Leader):</h2>
<p><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Industrial-Academy-Graphic.png" width="1024" height="538" /></a></p>
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		<title>Nuraddin Hajiev with Tecnica 80</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott MacKenzie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2025 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Industrial Talk is onsite at PowerGen 2025 and talking to Nuraddin Hajiev, Commercial &#038; Marketing Specialist at Tecnica 80 about "Transformer Manufacturing and Maintenance".</p>
<p>Scott MacKenzie from Industrial Talk discusses the Industrial Renaissance e-book and a personalized business valuation program available on their website. At Power Gen in Dallas, Texas, he interviews Nuraddin Hajiyev from Technica80, a company that manufactures equipment for transformer manufacturing plants. Technica80 specializes in high-voltage transformers, providing customized tools like lifters and mandrels. Hajiyev highlights the company's founder's expertise and their international clientele, particularly in the U.S. due to American customers' appreciation for quality. Technica80 aims to expand in the U.S. market, leveraging their unique, high-quality products.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="cfm-player-iframe" style="width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid #d6d6d6;"><iframe style="width: 100%; height: 170px;" frameborder="no" scrolling="no" seamless allow="autoplay" src="https://player.captivate.fm/bcf0b785-04f6-43b6-8a74-41d997e4184a"></iframe></div><p><strong><em>Industrial Talk </em></strong>is onsite at <a href="https://www.powergen.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">PowerGen 2025</a> and talking to <strong>Nuraddin Hajiev, Commercial & Marketing Specialist at Tecnica 80 </strong>about &#8220;<span class="OYPEnA font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none">Transformer Manufacturing and Maintenance</span>&#8220;<strong>.</strong></p>
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<p>Scott MacKenzie from Industrial Talk discusses the Industrial Renaissance e-book and a personalized business valuation program available on their website. At Power Gen in Dallas, Texas, he interviews Nuraddin Hajiyev from Technica80, a company that manufactures equipment for transformer manufacturing plants. Technica80 specializes in high-voltage transformers, providing customized tools like lifters and mandrels. Hajiyev highlights the company's founder's expertise and their international clientele, particularly in the U.S. due to American customers' appreciation for quality. Technica80 aims to expand in the U.S. market, leveraging their unique, high-quality products.</p>
<h2>Action Items</h2>
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<li>[ ] @Scott MacKenzie &#8211; Provide Nuraddin Hajiyev's contact information on the Industrial Talk website.</li>
<li>[ ] Connect with Nuraddin Hajiyev on LinkedIn.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Outline</h2>
<h3>Introduction to Industrial Talk and Resources</h3>
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<li>Scott MacKenzie introduces Industrial Talk, emphasizing its purpose to help industrial professionals succeed.</li>
<li>He highlights two key resources: an e-book titled &#8220;Industrial Renaissance&#8221; and a personalized business valuation program.</li>
<li>The e-book focuses on leaders' solutions and strategies, while the valuation program helps align solutions with customer challenges.</li>
<li>Scott encourages listeners to visit Industrial Talk to download the e-book and utilize the valuation program.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Welcome to the Industrial Talk Podcast</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie welcomes listeners to the podcast, celebrating industry professionals and their contributions.</li>
<li>The podcast is broadcasting live from Power Gen in Dallas, Texas, showcasing the event's significance.</li>
<li>Scott mentions the presence of a gentleman from Italy, Dean Nora, and discusses the distribution of tech at the conference.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Introduction of Nuraddin Hajiyev</h3>
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<li>Scott MacKenzie asks Nuraddin Hajiyev to introduce himself and his background.</li>
<li>Nuraddin shares his origins from Azerbaijan, his master's degree in Italy, and his current role at Technica 80.</li>
<li>Technica 80 specializes in equipment for transformer manufacturing plants, focusing on high-voltage transformers.</li>
<li>Nuraddin explains that Technica 80 does not manufacture transformers but provides equipment for those who do.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Technica 80's Equipment and Customization</h3>
<ul>
<li>Nuraddin describes the equipment Technica 80 provides, such as lifters for coils, special cable conductors, and mandrels.</li>
<li>He emphasizes that all equipment is personalized and unique, tailored to the specific dimensions and needs of transformer manufacturers.</li>
<li>Technica 80's founder, Mr. Renzo Pamfilo, has extensive experience and a unique approach to troubleshooting.</li>
<li>American customers appreciate Technica 80's high-quality products and are easy to work with.</li>
</ul>
<h3>International Presence and Future Goals</h3>
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<li>Scott MacKenzie inquires about Technica 80's international presence and future goals.</li>
<li>Nuraddin confirms that Technica 80 has been international for over 30 years, working with customers worldwide.</li>
<li>In 2024, Technica 80 focused on exploring the US market, aiming to find American customers and expand their business.</li>
<li>Nuraddin highlights the professionalism and open-mindedness of American transformer producers, making them easy to work with.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Expansion Plans and Challenges</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott asks about Technica 80's expansion plans, including the possibility of opening a shop in the US.</li>
<li>Nuraddin mentions their base in New York City, supported by the Italian trading agency, for meeting customers in person.</li>
<li>Technica 80 aims to provide high-quality products at competitive prices to American customers.</li>
<li>Nuraddin shows a brochure with pictures of a mandrel and Mr. Renzo Pamfilo, emphasizing the company's capabilities and history.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Market Demand and Adaptation</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott discusses the increasing demand for power and electricity and how Technica 80 adapts to market changes.</li>
<li>Nuraddin acknowledges the growing demand and the need for companies like Technica 80 to prepare for future booms.</li>
<li>Power Gen 2050 is highlighted as a significant event, with a focus on electricity-based industries.</li>
<li>Technica 80's equipment is essential for meeting the growing demand for transformers.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Contact Information and Conclusion</h3>
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<li>Scott asks how listeners can contact Technica 80 for more information.</li>
<li>Nuraddin suggests reaching out via email or LinkedIn, providing his contact details.</li>
<li>Scott thanks Nuraddin for the opportunity to discuss Technica 80 and its capabilities.</li>
<li>The podcast concludes with Scott encouraging listeners to explore Industrial Talk's resources and stay tuned for future conversations.</li>
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<p>If interested in being on the Industrial Talk show, simply <strong><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/contact/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">contact us</a></strong> and let's have a quick conversation.</p>
<p>Finally, get your exclusive free access to the <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Industrial Academy</a> and a series on “<a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Why You Need To Podcast</strong></a>” for Greater Success in 2025. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!</p>
<h2>NURADDIN HAJIYYEV'S CONTACT INFORMATION:</h2>
<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hajiyevn/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hajiyevn/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/tecnica80srl/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/tecnica80srl/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company Website:</strong> <a href="https://www.tecnica80.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.tecnica80.com/</a></p>
<h2>PODCAST VIDEO:</h2>
<p><iframe loading="lazy" title="Nuraddin Hajiyev | @Tecnica80 | PowerGen | Transformer Technology and Maintenance" width="500" height="281" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/E-2nO5nmXWs?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<h2>THE STRATEGIC REASON &#8220;WHY YOU NEED TO PODCAST&#8221;:</h2>
<p><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Why-you-need-to-Podcast-Graphic-2.png" width="1024" height="538" /></a></p>
<h2>OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES:</h2>
<p><strong>NEOM</strong>: <a href="https://www.neom.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.neom.com/en-us</a></p>
<p><strong>Hexagon:</strong> <a href="https://hexagon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://hexagon.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Arduino:</strong> <a href="https://www.arduino.cc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.arduino.cc/</a></p>
<p><strong>Fictiv:</strong> <a href="https://www.fictiv.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.fictiv.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara:</strong> <a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Marketing Solutions:</strong>  <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Academy:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Dojo:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/</a></p>
<p><strong>We the 15:</strong><a href="https://www.wethe15.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.wethe15.org/</a></p>
<h2>YOUR INDUSTRIAL DIGITAL TOOLBOX:</h2>
<p><strong>LifterLMS:</strong> Get One Month Free for $1 – <a href="https://lifterlms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://lifterlms.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Active Campaign:</strong> <a href="https://www.activecampaign.com/?_r=H855VEPU" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Active Campaign Link</a></p>
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		<title>Mike Beehler with MBA, LLC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott MacKenzie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2025 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Industrial Talk is onsite at DistribuTech 2025 and talking to Mike Beehler, Founder and COO at MBA, LLC about "Responding to the Rapidly Changing Utility Market".</p>
<p>Scott MacKenzie promotes the Boston MEDevice event on September 30-October 1, 2025, organized by Informa, emphasizing education and collaboration in the medical device industry. At DistribuTech in Dallas, Mike Beehler discusses the Power Delivery Intelligence Initiative (PDI2). He highlights the need for significant investments in the electric grid, noting Texas's plan to double infrastructure spending. Beeler emphasizes the importance of efficient, resilient, and affordable grid systems, including the potential benefits of underground transmission lines. He also discusses the challenges of public safety power shutoffs and the advanced technology available today for grid maintenance and upgrades.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="cfm-player-iframe" style="width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid #d6d6d6;"><iframe style="width: 100%; height: 170px;" frameborder="no" scrolling="no" seamless allow="autoplay" src="https://player.captivate.fm/b8f07c87-4a73-4872-a41c-34516351baa5"></iframe></div><p><strong><em>Industrial Talk </em></strong>is onsite at <a href="https://www.distributech.com/">DistribuTech 2025</a> and talking to <strong>Mike Beehler, Founder and COO at MBA, LLC </strong>about &#8220;<span class="OYPEnA font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none">Responding to the Rapidly Changing Utility Market</span>&#8220;<strong>.</strong></p>
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<p>Scott MacKenzie promotes the <a href="https://www.medeviceboston.com/en/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Boston MEDevice</a> event on September 30-October 1, 2025, organized by Informa, emphasizing education and collaboration in the medical device industry. At DistribuTech in Dallas, Mike Beehler discusses the Power Delivery Intelligence Initiative (PDI2). He highlights the need for significant investments in the electric grid, noting Texas's plan to double infrastructure spending. Beeler emphasizes the importance of efficient, resilient, and affordable grid systems, including the potential benefits of underground transmission lines. He also discusses the challenges of public safety power shutoffs and the advanced technology available today for grid maintenance and upgrades.</p>
<h2>Action Items</h2>
<ul>
<li>[ ] Attend the ME Device Boston event on September 30 &#8211; October 1, 2025.</li>
<li>[ ] Connect with Mike Beeler, Power Delivery Intelligence Initiative, at m.beeler@pdi2.org or on LinkedIn.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Outline</h2>
<h3>Medical Device Event Announcement</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie announces the ME Device Boston event from September 30 to October 1, 2025, emphasizing its importance for professionals in the medical device industry.</li>
<li>The event is organized by Informa, known for their educational and collaborative events.</li>
<li>Scott encourages attendees to mark their calendars and participate in the event.</li>
<li>The event aims to foster innovation and collaboration within the medical device industry.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Introduction to Industrial Talk Podcast</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott thanks listeners for their support and celebrates industrial professionals for their contributions to society.</li>
<li>The podcast is sponsored by Siemens Smart Infrastructure and Grid Software, encouraging listeners to visit siemens.com for more information.</li>
<li>Scott mentions the current broadcast location at Distribute Tech in Dallas, Texas, and introduces Mike Beeler as a guest.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Discussion with Mike Beehler on Power Delivery Intelligence</h3>
<ul>
<li>Mike Beehler introduces himself and his role in the Power Delivery Intelligence Initiative (PDI2).</li>
<li>Mike shares his experience moderating a panel on investment strategies for the electric grid, emphasizing the significant investments planned.</li>
<li>The Texas &#8220;miracle&#8221; is discussed, highlighting the state's economic growth and the need for increased infrastructure investment.</li>
<li>The conversation touches on the challenges of rate recovery and affordability in the context of grid modernization.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Challenges and Solutions in Grid Modernization</h3>
<ul>
<li>Mike discusses the need for more efficient and resilient grid infrastructure, using newer technologies.</li>
<li>The regulatory process for setting utility rates is explained, including the importance of keeping rate increases below the cost of inflation.</li>
<li>The conversation highlights the impact of grid inefficiencies on affordability and the need for a more reliable and resilient grid.</li>
<li>Scott and Mike discuss the importance of consumer expectations for quality electricity and the challenges of public safety power shutoffs in wildfire areas.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Underground vs. Overhead Transmission Lines</h3>
<ul>
<li>The discussion shifts to the pros and cons of underground vs. overhead transmission lines.</li>
<li>Mike explains the higher initial cost of underground lines but their lower long-term maintenance costs.</li>
<li>The conversation covers the challenges of converting an entire grid to underground lines and the need for a balanced approach.</li>
<li>Scott shares a personal anecdote about underground distribution work in Long Beach, California, and the advanced technology used today.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Case Study: 500 kV Underground Transmission Line</h3>
<ul>
<li>Mike shares a case study of a 500 kV underground transmission line project in Chino Hills, California.</li>
<li>The project faced public opposition but was ultimately completed due to its importance for renewable energy transmission.</li>
<li>The conversation highlights the critical nature of splicing and termination processes in underground transmission lines.</li>
<li>Mike emphasizes the importance of advanced technology and material sciences in modern grid infrastructure.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Future of the Power Industry</h3>
<ul>
<li>Mike discusses the future of the power industry, emphasizing the influx of talented young professionals with advanced degrees.</li>
<li>The conversation covers the electrification movement in the U.S. and the exciting opportunities in the power industry.</li>
<li>Mike shares his contact information for listeners interested in connecting with him.</li>
<li>Scott wraps up the conversation, encouraging listeners to connect with Mike and stay tuned for more content on Industrial Talk.</li>
</ul>
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<p>If interested in being on the Industrial Talk show, simply <strong><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/contact/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">contact us</a></strong> and let's have a quick conversation.</p>
<p>Finally, get your exclusive free access to the <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Industrial Academy</a> and a series on “<a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Why You Need To Podcast</strong></a>” for Greater Success in 2025. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!</p>
<h2>MIKE BEEHLER'S CONTACT INFORMATION:</h2>
<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikebeehler/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikebeehler/</a></p>
<h2>PODCAST VIDEO:</h2>
<p><iframe loading="lazy" title="Mike Beehler | DistribuTech | MBA, LLC | The Dynamic Utility Market" width="500" height="281" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5-RI6ak577Y?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<h2>THE STRATEGIC REASON &#8220;WHY YOU NEED TO PODCAST&#8221;:</h2>
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<h2>OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES:</h2>
<p><strong>NEOM</strong>: <a href="https://www.neom.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.neom.com/en-us</a></p>
<p><strong>Hexagon:</strong> <a href="https://hexagon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://hexagon.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Arduino:</strong> <a href="https://www.arduino.cc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.arduino.cc/</a></p>
<p><strong>Fictiv:</strong> <a href="https://www.fictiv.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.fictiv.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara:</strong> <a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Marketing Solutions:</strong>  <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Academy:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Dojo:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/</a></p>
<p><strong>We the 15:</strong><a href="https://www.wethe15.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.wethe15.org/</a></p>
<h2>YOUR INDUSTRIAL DIGITAL TOOLBOX:</h2>
<p><strong>LifterLMS:</strong> Get One Month Free for $1 – <a href="https://lifterlms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://lifterlms.com/</a></p>
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<p><strong>Social Jukebox:</strong> <a href="https://www.socialjukebox.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.socialjukebox.com/</a></p>
<h2>Industrial Academy (One Month Free Access And One Free License For Future Industrial Leader):</h2>
<p><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Industrial-Academy-Graphic.png" width="1024" height="538" /></a></p>
<h2>Business Beatitude the Book</h2>
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<p class="ql-align-center"><strong>TAP INTO YOUR INDUSTRIAL SOUL, RESERVE YOUR COPY NOW! BE BOLD. BE BRAVE. DARE GREATLY AND CHANGE THE WORLD. GET THE BUSINESS BEATITUDES!</strong></p>
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		<title>Tom Kurtz with Hexagon Asset Lifecycle Intelligence</title>
		<link>https://industrialtalk.com/episodes/tom-kurtz-with-hexagon-asset-lifecycle-intelligence/</link>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott MacKenzie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Industrial Talk is onsite at DistribuTech 2025 and talking to Tom Kurtz, Vice President at Hexagon Asset Lifecycle Intelligence about "Utility Asset Management Solutions".</p>
<p>Scott MacKenzie and Tom Kurtz discuss the importance of asset management in the utility space, highlighting the challenges of tracking and maintaining assets that are not easily visible. They emphasize the need for a comprehensive approach that integrates strategy and execution, leveraging technologies like Hexagon's EAM and network design systems. Kurtz explains how Hexagon's solutions help manage the entire asset life cycle, from maintenance requests to predictive reliability, and stresses the importance of user adoption and data management. They also touch on the benefits of visualizing assets in 3D for better field operations and the role of project portfolio planning in construction and capital investment.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="cfm-player-iframe" style="width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid #d6d6d6;"><iframe style="width: 100%; height: 170px;" frameborder="no" scrolling="no" seamless allow="autoplay" src="https://player.captivate.fm/60030884-6908-4864-b5cb-5c8563480fce"></iframe></div><p><strong><em>Industrial Talk </em></strong>is onsite at <a href="https://www.distributech.com/">DistribuTech 2025</a> and talking to <strong>Tom Kurtz, Vice President at Hexagon Asset Lifecycle Intelligence </strong>about &#8220;<span class="OYPEnA font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none">Utility Asset Management Solutions</span>&#8220;<strong>.</strong></p>
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<p>Scott MacKenzie and Tom Kurtz discuss the importance of asset management in the utility space, highlighting the challenges of tracking and maintaining assets that are not easily visible. They emphasize the need for a comprehensive approach that integrates strategy and execution, leveraging technologies like Hexagon's EAM and network design systems. Kurtz explains how Hexagon's solutions help manage the entire asset life cycle, from maintenance requests to predictive reliability, and stresses the importance of user adoption and data management. They also touch on the benefits of visualizing assets in 3D for better field operations and the role of project portfolio planning in construction and capital investment.</p>
<h2>Action Items</h2>
<ul>
<li>[ ] Reach out to Tom Kurtz on LinkedIn to discuss Hexagon's solutions further.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Outline</h2>
<h3>Introduction and Welcome to Industrial Talk Podcast</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie introduces the Industrial Talk Podcast, highlighting its focus on industrial professionals and their innovations.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie mentions the sponsors, Siemens Smart Infrastructure and Grid Software, and encourages listeners to visit siemens.com.</li>
<li>The podcast is broadcasting live from Distribute Tech in Dallas, Texas, targeting professionals in the utility space.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie introduces Tom Kurtz from Hexagon, who is in the &#8220;hot seat&#8221; to discuss his company and its offerings.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Tom Kurtz's Initial Impressions and Conference Experience</h3>
<ul>
<li>Tom Kurtz expresses his gratitude for the invitation and shares his excitement about the conference.</li>
<li>Tom Kurtz describes the diverse range of exhibits at the conference, including trucks, electrical poles, and software.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie and Tom Kurtz discuss the broad scope of the utility space and the various solutions on display.</li>
<li>Tom Kurtz mentions the importance of asset management and its role in strategic planning for utilities.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Challenges in Asset Management and Regulatory Considerations</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie and Tom Kurtz discuss the challenges of managing assets that are not easily visible, such as transformers.</li>
<li>Tom Kurtz shares a customer's perspective on managing the entire life cycle of assets, not just maintaining them.</li>
<li>The conversation touches on the importance of proactive and predictive asset management.</li>
<li>Tom Kurtz explains the need for a strategic approach to asset management, considering both reliability and risk.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Strategic vs. Execution in Asset Management</h3>
<ul>
<li>Tom Kurtz emphasizes the importance of optimizing strategy and execution in asset management.</li>
<li>He explains that companies often struggle with executing strategies effectively.</li>
<li>Tom Kurtz suggests that companies should not wait to achieve 100% execution before implementing strategies.</li>
<li>The discussion highlights the need for a balanced approach, combining asset performance and maintenance efficiency.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Change Management and Hexagon's Role</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie raises the issue of change management and the human element in adopting new technologies.</li>
<li>Tom Kurtz explains that Hexagon's approach includes recognizing the human aspect and integrating it into the design and deployment process.</li>
<li>He stresses the importance of involving business and functional leaders in the conversation from the beginning.</li>
<li>Tom Kurtz discusses the adoption side of implementing new systems, focusing on usability and user adoption.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Streamlining Work Management in Utilities</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie asks how Hexagon's EAM platform can streamline work management in the utility space.</li>
<li>Tom Kurtz outlines the key components of a strong EAM solution, including work management processes and asset hierarchies.</li>
<li>He explains the importance of spare parts management and inventory planning.</li>
<li>Tom Kurtz introduces the concept of reality viewer, which allows technicians to visualize facilities and assets in 3D.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Asset Networks and Hexagon Networks</h3>
<ul>
<li>Tom Kurtz introduces the concept of asset networks, linking EAM systems to network design and operation systems.</li>
<li>He explains how this integration can provide a broader perspective on asset management, including design and operations.</li>
<li>Tom Kurtz mentions Hexagon Networks, a product that supports this integration.</li>
<li>The discussion highlights the benefits of managing assets both within and outside of facilities.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Data Management and Project Portfolio Planning</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie asks about keeping current with information and managing data in the utility space.</li>
<li>Tom Kurtz emphasizes the importance of data management and having a robust data layer.</li>
<li>He introduces Hexagon Ecosystems, a product for project portfolio planning, which helps manage construction projects.</li>
<li>The conversation touches on the need for investment planning and tracking project progress.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Conclusion and Contact Information</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie wraps up the discussion, expressing his enthusiasm for asset management and its application in the utility space.</li>
<li>He encourages listeners to reach out to Tom Kurtz via LinkedIn for more information.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie thanks the sponsors, Siemens Smart Infrastructure and Grid Software, and mentions the upcoming broadcast from DistribuTech.</li>
<li>The podcast concludes with a reminder to be bold, brave, and innovative in the industrial space.</li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
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<p>If interested in being on the Industrial Talk show, simply <strong><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/contact/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">contact us</a></strong> and let's have a quick conversation.</p>
<p>Finally, get your exclusive free access to the <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Industrial Academy</a> and a series on “<a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Why You Need To Podcast</strong></a>” for Greater Success in 2025. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!</p>
<h2>TOM KURTZ'S CONTACT INFORMATION:</h2>
<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kurtz-solutions/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kurtz-solutions/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company LinkedIn:</strong>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/hexagonassetlifecycleintelligence/posts/?feedView=all" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/hexagonassetlifecycleintelligence/posts/?feedView=all</a></p>
<p><strong>Company Website:</strong> <a href="https://hexagon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://hexagon.com/</a></p>
<h2>PODCAST VIDEO:</h2>
<p><iframe loading="lazy" title="Tom Kurtz | Hexigon ALI | DistribuTech | Utility Asset Management Solutions" width="500" height="281" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WR20s7ti4Ks?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<h2>THE STRATEGIC REASON &#8220;WHY YOU NEED TO PODCAST&#8221;:</h2>
<p><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Why-you-need-to-Podcast-Graphic-2.png" width="1024" height="538" /></a></p>
<h2>OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES:</h2>
<p><strong>NEOM</strong>: <a href="https://www.neom.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.neom.com/en-us</a></p>
<p><strong>Hexagon:</strong> <a href="https://hexagon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://hexagon.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Arduino:</strong> <a href="https://www.arduino.cc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.arduino.cc/</a></p>
<p><strong>Fictiv:</strong> <a href="https://www.fictiv.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.fictiv.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara:</strong> <a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Marketing Solutions:</strong>  <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Academy:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Dojo:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/</a></p>
<p><strong>We the 15:</strong><a href="https://www.wethe15.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.wethe15.org/</a></p>
<h2>YOUR INDUSTRIAL DIGITAL TOOLBOX:</h2>
<p><strong>LifterLMS:</strong> Get One Month Free for $1 – <a href="https://lifterlms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://lifterlms.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Active Campaign:</strong> <a href="https://www.activecampaign.com/?_r=H855VEPU" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Active Campaign Link</a></p>
<p><strong>Social Jukebox:</strong> <a href="https://www.socialjukebox.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.socialjukebox.com/</a></p>
<h2>Industrial Academy (One Month Free Access And One Free License For Future Industrial Leader):</h2>
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<h2>Business Beatitude the Book</h2>
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		<title>Marcus McCarthy with Siemens Grid Software</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott MacKenzie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2025 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Industrial Talk is onsite at DistribuTech 2025 and talking to Marcus McCarthy, Sr. Vice President at Siemens Grid Software about "Energy Solutions for the Future".</p>
<p>Scott MacKenzie and Marcus McCarthy discuss the evolving utility industry and the role of digital twins in improving efficiency and reliability. Marcus highlights the challenges of aging infrastructure, increased power demand, and the need for carbon removal. He emphasizes the importance of accurate digital models for better planning and decision-making. Marcus explains how Siemens' digital twin solutions enable real-time operations and scenario simulations, enhancing network management. They also touch on the practicality of cloud technology and the industry's readiness to adopt new technologies. The conversation underscores the urgency for utilities to invest in digital twins to meet future energy demands and optimize grid performance.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="cfm-player-iframe" style="width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid #d6d6d6;"><iframe style="width: 100%; height: 170px;" frameborder="no" scrolling="no" seamless allow="autoplay" src="https://player.captivate.fm/5559db65-f593-45b0-86d4-f4253b322c30"></iframe></div><p><strong><em>Industrial Talk </em></strong>is onsite at <a href="https://www.distributech.com/">DistribuTech 2025</a> and talking to <strong>Marcus McCarthy, Sr. Vice President at Siemens Grid Software </strong>about &#8220;<span class="OYPEnA font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none">Energy Solutions for the Future</span>&#8220;<strong>.</strong></p>
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<p>Scott MacKenzie and Marcus McCarthy discuss the evolving utility industry and the role of digital twins in improving efficiency and reliability. Marcus highlights the challenges of aging infrastructure, increased power demand, and the need for carbon removal. He emphasizes the importance of accurate digital models for better planning and decision-making. Marcus explains how Siemens' digital twin solutions enable real-time operations and scenario simulations, enhancing network management. They also touch on the practicality of cloud technology and the industry's readiness to adopt new technologies. The conversation underscores the urgency for utilities to invest in digital twins to meet future energy demands and optimize grid performance.</p>
<h2>Action Items</h2>
<ul>
<li>[ ] Connect with Marcus McCarthy on LinkedIn or at marcus.mccarthy@siemens.com to discuss further</li>
<li>[ ] Establish accurate digital models of the utility network (digital twins) with temporal stamping to simulate future scenarios</li>
<li>[ ] Explore how high-energy consumption facilities like data centers can optimize their interaction with the grid</li>
</ul>
<h2>Outline</h2>
<h3>Introduction and Welcome</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott MacKenzie as a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting-edge industry innovations and trends.</li>
<li>Scott MacKenzie welcomes listeners to the Industrial Talk Podcast, highlighting the celebration of industry professionals worldwide.</li>
<li>Scott mentions the podcast is brought to you by Siemens Smart Infrastructure and Grid Software, encouraging listeners to visit siemens.com for more information.</li>
<li>Scott and Marcus discuss the massive scale of the Distribute Tech conference in Dallas, Texas, and Scott's limited time to explore the solutions.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Background on Marcus McCarthy</h3>
<ul>
<li>Marcus shares his background, mentioning his move from Ireland to the US about 12 years ago.</li>
<li>Marcus discusses his career in utilities, focusing on distribution and transmission software systems.</li>
<li>Scott and Marcus agree on the positive aspects of the utility industry, including the people and the current market dynamics.</li>
<li>Marcus reflects on the industry's shift from a quiet period to a time of rapid change and innovation.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Challenges and Pressures in the Utility Industry</h3>
<ul>
<li>Marcus highlights the increasing demand for power and the need for safe and reliable delivery.</li>
<li>Scott and Marcus discuss the challenges of aging infrastructure and the need for modernization.</li>
<li>Marcus explains the complexities of meeting future power demands while addressing carbon removal efforts.</li>
<li>Scott shares his experience as a lineman and the evolution of the utility industry from a linear design to a more distributed energy system.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Digital Twin and Its Importance</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott expresses his enthusiasm for digital twin technology and its potential for simulation and decision-making.</li>
<li>Marcus explains the critical role of digital twin in achieving faster, better decision-making in complex environments.</li>
<li>Marcus discusses the importance of standardized models and the sharing of planning data among different players in the industry.</li>
<li>Marcus highlights the need for real-time operations and the challenges of integrating planning and operations data.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Cloud Technology and Latency</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott and Marcus discuss the benefits and challenges of using cloud technology for utility operations.</li>
<li>Marcus explains the potential for hybrid solutions that combine local data storage with cloud processing.</li>
<li>Scott raises concerns about change management and the need for utilities to embrace new technologies.</li>
<li>Marcus emphasizes the practical nature of the utility industry and their willingness to adopt new solutions if they are fit for purpose.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Interconnected Utilities and Innovation</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott asks about the challenges of interconnected utilities with different levels of readiness for innovation.</li>
<li>Marcus reassures that there is no significant friction between utilities and that innovation is encouraged.</li>
<li>Marcus highlights the importance of practical problem-solving and the realistic approach of the utility industry.</li>
<li>Scott and Marcus discuss the role of AI and the need for trusted partners to help utilities navigate the technological landscape.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Building a Digital Twin</h3>
<ul>
<li>Marcus emphasizes the importance of having a high-quality digital twin for accurate planning and decision-making.</li>
<li>Marcus explains the challenges of creating accurate digital models for distribution networks compared to transmission networks.</li>
<li>Scott shares his experience with outdated single-line maps and the need for better data management.</li>
<li>Marcus outlines the process of building a digital twin and the ongoing effort required to maintain and improve it.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Future of Digital Twin and Utility Industry</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott asks about the future of digital twin technology and its impact on the utility industry.</li>
<li>Marcus predicts a significant increase in demand, especially in high-energy consumption facilities like data centers.</li>
<li>Marcus discusses the importance of optimizing the interaction between these facilities and the grid.</li>
<li>Scott and Marcus agree on the need for utilities to start their digital twin journey now to be prepared for future challenges.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Conclusion and Contact Information</h3>
<ul>
<li>Scott encourages listeners to connect with Marcus McCarthy for more information and insights.</li>
<li>Marcus provides his contact information and mentions his presence on LinkedIn.</li>
<li>Scott wraps up the conversation, highlighting the importance of the Industrial Talk Podcast and the Distribute Tech event.</li>
<li>Scott invites listeners to visit industrialtalk.com and connect with him and other industry professionals.</li>
</ul>
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<p>If interested in being on the Industrial Talk show, simply <strong><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/contact/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">contact us</a></strong> and let's have a quick conversation.</p>
<p>Finally, get your exclusive free access to the <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Industrial Academy</a> and a series on “<a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Why You Need To Podcast</strong></a>” for Greater Success in 2025. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!</p>
<h2>MARCUS MCCARTHY'S CONTACT INFORMATION:</h2>
<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcusmccarthy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcusmccarthy/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company Website:</strong> <a href="https://www.siemens.com/global/en/products/energy/grid-software.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.siemens.com/global/en/products/energy/grid-software.html</a></p>
<h2>PODCAST VIDEO:</h2>
<p><iframe loading="lazy" title="Marcus Mccarthy | Siemens Grid Software | DistribuTech 25 | Utility Digital Twin" width="500" height="281" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KDI82GGgaRA?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<h2>THE STRATEGIC REASON &#8220;WHY YOU NEED TO PODCAST&#8221;:</h2>
<p><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Why-you-need-to-Podcast-Graphic-2.png" width="1024" height="538" /></a></p>
<h2>OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES:</h2>
<p><strong>NEOM</strong>: <a href="https://www.neom.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.neom.com/en-us</a></p>
<p><strong>Hexagon:</strong> <a href="https://hexagon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://hexagon.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Arduino:</strong> <a href="https://www.arduino.cc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.arduino.cc/</a></p>
<p><strong>Fictiv:</strong> <a href="https://www.fictiv.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.fictiv.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara:</strong> <a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Marketing Solutions:</strong>  <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Academy:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Dojo:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/</a></p>
<p><strong>We the 15:</strong><a href="https://www.wethe15.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.wethe15.org/</a></p>
<h2>YOUR INDUSTRIAL DIGITAL TOOLBOX:</h2>
<p><strong>LifterLMS:</strong> Get One Month Free for $1 – <a href="https://lifterlms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://lifterlms.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Active Campaign:</strong> <a href="https://www.activecampaign.com/?_r=H855VEPU" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Active Campaign Link</a></p>
<p><strong>Social Jukebox:</strong> <a href="https://www.socialjukebox.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.socialjukebox.com/</a></p>
<h2>Industrial Academy (One Month Free Access And One Free License For Future Industrial Leader):</h2>
<p><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Industrial-Academy-Graphic.png" width="1024" height="538" /></a></p>
<h2>Business Beatitude the Book</h2>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/BB-Book-Cover.png" width="138" height="215" /></p>
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<p class="ql-align-center"><strong>TAP INTO YOUR INDUSTRIAL SOUL, RESERVE YOUR COPY NOW! BE BOLD. BE BRAVE. DARE GREATLY AND CHANGE THE WORLD. GET THE BUSINESS BEATITUDES!</strong></p>
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		<title>Ty Roberts with Itron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott MacKenzie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2023 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>On this week's Industrial Talk we're onsite at Distributech 22 and talking to Ty Roberts, Vice President of Product Marketing at Itron, Inc. about "The community impact and education of changes in the utility market". Get the answers to your "Utility" questions along with Ty's unique insight on the “How” on this Industrial Talk interview!</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="cfm-player-iframe" style="width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid #d6d6d6;"><iframe style="width: 100%; height: 170px;" frameborder="no" scrolling="no" seamless allow="autoplay" src="https://player.captivate.fm/6efa77a2-8a02-4d7c-b2db-55d0478a465b"></iframe></div><p>On this week's <strong><em>Industrial Talk </em></strong>we're onsite at <a href="https://www.distributech.com/welcome" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Distributech 22</a> and talking to <strong>Ty Roberts, Vice President of Product Marketing</strong> at Itron, Inc. about <b>&#8220;The community impact and education of changes in the utility market&#8221;</b>. Get the answers to your &#8220;Utility&#8221; questions along with Ty's unique insight on the “How” on this Industrial Talk interview!</p>
<p>Finally, get your exclusive free access to the <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Industrial Academy</a> and a series on “<a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Why You Need To Podcast</strong></a>” for Greater Success in 2023. All links designed for keeping you current in this rapidly changing Industrial Market. Learn! Grow! Enjoy!</p>
<h2>TY ROBERTS' CONTACT INFORMATION:</h2>
<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-roberts-13b5ab6/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-roberts-13b5ab6/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/itroninc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/itroninc/</a></p>
<p><strong>Company Website: </strong><a href="https://www.itron.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.itron.com/</a></p>
<h2>PODCAST VIDEO:</h2>
<p><iframe loading="lazy" title="Ty Roberts with Itron live at DistribuTECH 22" width="500" height="281" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rQsj23ZpuLs?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<h2>THE STRATEGIC REASON &#8220;WHY YOU NEED TO PODCAST&#8221;:</h2>
<p><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/why-you-need-to-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Why-you-need-to-Podcast-Graphic-2.png" width="1024" height="538" /></a></p>
<h2>OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES:</h2>
<p><strong>NEOM</strong>: <a href="https://www.neom.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.neom.com/en-us</a></p>
<p><strong>AI Dash:</strong> <a href="https://www.aidash.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.aidash.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara:</strong> <a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Marketing Solutions:</strong>  <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-marketing/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Academy:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial-academy/</a></p>
<p><strong>Industrial Dojo:</strong> <a href="https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://industrialtalk.com/industrial_dojo/</a></p>
<p><strong>We the 15:</strong><a href="https://www.wethe15.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.wethe15.org/</a></p>
<h2>YOUR INDUSTRIAL DIGITAL TOOLBOX:</h2>
<p><strong>LifterLMS:</strong> Get One Month Free for $1 – <a href="https://lifterlms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://lifterlms.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Active Campaign:</strong> <a href="https://www.activecampaign.com/?_r=H855VEPU" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Active Campaign Link</a></p>
<p><strong>Social Jukebox:</strong> <a href="https://www.socialjukebox.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.socialjukebox.com/</a></p>
<h2>Industrial Academy (One Month Free Access And One Free License For Future Industrial Leader):</h2>
<p><a href="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/inforum-industrial-academy-discount/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-admin/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Industrial-Academy-Graphic.png" width="1024" height="538" /></a></p>
<h2>Business Beatitude the Book</h2>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft" src="https://industrialtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/BB-Book-Cover.png" width="138" height="215" /></p>
<p class="ql-align-center">Do you desire a more joy-filled, deeply-enduring sense of accomplishment and success? Live your business the way you want to live with the BUSINESS BEATITUDES&#8230;The Bridge connecting sacrifice to success. <strong>YOU NEED THE BUSINESS BEATITUDES!</strong></p>
<p class="ql-align-center"><strong>TAP INTO YOUR INDUSTRIAL SOUL, RESERVE YOUR COPY NOW! BE BOLD. BE BRAVE. DARE GREATLY AND CHANGE THE WORLD. GET THE BUSINESS BEATITUDES!</strong></p>
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<h2>PODCAST TRANSCRIPT:</h2>
<p><strong>SUMMARY KEYWORDS</strong></p>
<p>utilities, community, industrial, ty, conversation, deliver, absolutely, ratepayer, collaborate, broadly, services, digital transformation, expertise, electrification, nimble, industry, people, talking, scott, data</p>
<p>00:00</p>
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<p>00:54</p>
<p>Welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott Mackenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professionals dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hardhat grab your work boots, and let's All</p>
<p>01:12</p>
<p>right, welcome to industrial talk date three DistribuTECH, Dallas, Texas, and it is wrapping up we are the realm there's maybe 27 and a half people on the floor. And this floor is huge. And so we we just had a man, it's been a absolute blistering pace at this particular event. And you are joining industrial talk the number one industrial related podcast in the universe tie. It's backed up by data. So don't even come to me and say, Scott, that doesn't make sense. It's data. It's science. All right. And once again, you have joined the ever-expanding industrial ecosystem of problem solvers in the hot seat. We've got Ty Roberts, Itron as the company. We're going to be talking about community involvement. And I like them. That's a dead sexy conversation around let's get going. Ty Good morning, Scott. Hey, thank you for making time in your schedule. My pleasure. Yeah, listeners, it's around 530 In the morning time. This is because Ty's real busy and it's tough. He's,</p>
<p>02:16</p>
<p>he's anything for you. Anything.</p>
<p>02:18</p>
<p>Anything for me? Do you have any good conference? Do you think it was good?</p>
<p>02:21</p>
<p>I was fantastic. I think just being out if there had been 27 people, like you'd said, it would have been wonderful to have face. To see 10,000 people out was absolutely fantastic. Having conversations again,</p>
<p>02:35</p>
<p>face to face. Did you run into people that you only knew virtually?</p>
<p>02:41</p>
<p>Many? Yes, absolutely. Yeah. People who?</p>
<p>02:45</p>
<p>You're tall. There was one guy just said, Holy cow, man. Your gigantor?</p>
<p>02:52</p>
<p>No, it was amazing.</p>
<p>02:54</p>
<p>Yeah. And I think the conversations have been I have come to realize that there's good and bad with a pandemic, and Bad's obvious, the good is that I think that there are a lot more companies that are saying, We got to collaborate. And in the world of utilities, who will have whatever grid management or world of generation, whatever. That is so important to collaborate. One of the issues that I always I think I mentioned a couple of times on a number of conversations, is this. Utilities, the activities of utilities are pretty much unsung. It's, it's binary. You deliver power, you're okay, I'm not thinking about. But if you don't deliver power, and it's interrupted, and it's flickering, or whatever it is, I'm mad. It's like, Yes, I'm okay. I'm mad. But, but the masses, the communities don't understand. How do we how do we begin to broach that subject?</p>
<p>03:50</p>
<p>It's a fabulous question. I know lots of utilities are wrestling with it and lots of our customers included and in that so because you're absolutely right that they do a fantastic job at what they do. And you can think of the lights went out six months ago for five minutes it's it hardly ever happens. And and and it's an amazingly complex task to deliver gas electric and water. But that happens. It happens by seamlessly for us every day. I think where we've had a number of conversations with utilities on on, especially in the sort of the industrial IOT space is what utilities have a real expertise that is managing large complex systems to deliver services outside and broad the span their entire community or communities. And, and managing and maintaining that infrastructure is a real expertise that utilities have and I did a fireside chat a couple of days ago with Sam DuPont from Baltimore Gas and Electric talking about this very thing were being able to leverage that experience in the properties and utilities are trusted to do to do that. What other things can the utility provide to their community beyond just sort of their their core business and their core commodity of the day that they deliver. So we know that many of our customers are working within their communities to provide other services like, like smart lighting, like sensing, flood sensing was one that Sam talked about a fair bit. But other things that involve, you know, connected solutions and and bringing data back into a back office and processing and then sending that data somewhere else and integrating to other police forces and other arena first responders, other other parts of the answer the full community infrastructure, and this is something that utilities are good at it, that outreach of going out in the community and engaging with them or engaging with other other utilities that are in their service territory. So electric utility, collaborating with the water utility, for example, to say, Hey, I've got a smart metering network up already communications in place, it won't be that big of a deal to add your water meters to that same network, and we can perform the reading for you. We have a few utilities who are starting to really explore that opportunity. And I think the challenge that, that so many utilities have is is the, from a regulatory perspective, they have a little box and you guys got to do what you do you have assets that are paid for by by your constituents through a rate base. And and that's all you can use it for, I think there's starting to be some realization with different governments, regional governments and utility Commission's around the country that asking everybody to put in the same kind of infrastructure, even small utilities that just don't have the, you know, the capital or the expertise to do it. It's a real barrier to entry in a barrier to providing digital services to their citizens. So that tension is an interesting one. And we're seeing a lot more collaboration between utilities between these villages and communities. And we're seeing some easing of the sort of the regulatory concern and even beyond certain certain regulators saying, Yeah, actually, you guys should be collaborating, cooperating, we can't pay for everybody to put all this expensive stuff. And so let's reuse what we can.</p>
<p>07:12</p>
<p>So it's interesting, because many industries are going through this digital transformation, it just is one of the most challenging I you know, I've talked to manufacturers, I've talked to oil and gas, and it's sort of a different conversation. But utilities is just, it's a challenge in it. And you're dealing with a lot of legacy thinking like this is how we've operated this system for 90 years. And we have this and this and this. And now there's this pressure to to with renewables, and it's been going on, but it's still was consistent with, alright, your generator, get it on the transmission line, it was still very linear in that case. Now we're talking distributive. And again, if we want to succeed, from my perspective, we want to succeed with this journey for the shuttle, we have to be very pragmatic. We have to communicate, we have to do all of that. Because if the community if the businesses are saying, I can't do business here, I can't I can't live here because the my power goes out. I get it, but it says it's summertime, I can't do it. Right. So but but it's, but the reality is it's going to happen. Right?</p>
<p>08:23</p>
<p>Absolutely. And I think I think the wave that everyone I think sees and feels, how big it is, and when it's gonna hit as the, I think is the thing that not everyone was quite realized yet, but what electrification with electric vehicles, you know, with with the commitments that that that communities and regional governments are making to, to carbon reduction and electrification, we see, of course, all the automakers are electrifying their portfolios and their fleets. That is going to require a massive amount of engaged community engagement. Because homes, just the amount of new of new demand that's going to go on to onto electric network is enormous. We cannot build enough generation in anything like the time or ever, frankly, to serve all of that load. If so, how it gets managed is going to have to be absolutely key to the success of putting in charging stations and all the places that they have to get put in so that will absolutely have to be driven by conversations between the utility and and businesses and government etc.</p>
<p>09:26</p>
<p>My ears bleeding. I'm telling you, there's so many pieces and parts and pointy ends and rounded it it is but it's exciting. The challenge I see. I'm one of many don't get me wrong here. Challenges are the it's like I'm a utility. I'm not I'm not the utility next door to me, I have a different journey. And that utility has a different journey and that and we're on a different path and and what's priority to me is not a priority you and then there's no real quote standardization. shown right? With all of this stuff. And, uh, somebody's going to have to, and and because utilities tend to be very pragmatic, you know, nobody, nobody wants to, I'll go first I'll go first. But then there are utilities that do that, and then they're gonna blaze that path. But then again, it's it's, it's an IT, how do we inform the community because it's just sort of an interesting, and I'll be, I'll be blunt, I never listened to anything that comes from my utility. It's just like, Hey, who are you? Okay, great. Right? How do we do that? How do we how do we do that?</p>
<p>10:40</p>
<p>Well, I think there has to be concerted effort by utilities, and many of them are doing this on on community engagement as a strategy and as an as an expertise that they build and staff and, and develop a plan around because it's that that engagement with electrification? Absolutely, but also with the opportunity to provide additional services. It's very real, and it's tangible. And, and, and they do have an expertise that can be that can be leveraged so. But going into the community, I think not being seen as the as the sort of the big bully, and here's our way and you are ratepayer, right. But understanding the problems the community is having, how can we solve this for you, and here's some options that we have. But that's, again, Sam from from eg need describes it really well is that you have to come in with 80% of the solution, but not 100%. Because you have to have room to tweak and adjust it because communities have different needs. And, and and you have to be collaborative, but you also can't come in with a blank slate and say, Alright, where do we begin?</p>
<p>11:48</p>
<p>Yeah. There will be a massive flatlining. But what I what I do see, and I think that it's going to take time, but But you know, the old way of thinking is that I deliver power, I do it reliably, do it safe. And that's my role and responsibility. There it is. But now, I think the the community as a whole is becoming more comfortable with sort of cafeteria type of approach to business and everything so so I'm able to sort of say, well, I don't want that. But I can, I can do that. And then that's cool. But I only want 50 That's what this whole digital thing. It gives me options that, but that's an education. It's like, hey, here it is, you can do this, this and this. Pretty cool. Right? beforehand. You couldn't do it? That's and that's the digital conversation. Yeah,</p>
<p>12:40</p>
<p>that's right. When I think and I think where utilities are looking to get to is, there's there's a ton of opportunity out there, there's a ton of challenges that you can solve with cool sensors, and data and providing early warning for lots of things. And there's lots of little business models that need to be tested. Are they going to scale, then are they gonna be broadly needed? And broadly deployable? I don't know. So I think the challenge now is when the opportunity is, let's test let's be quick and nimble and test. What are the services that people need? And and and are they broadly required? Because like, what, what, what utilities we really good at is, if it's, again, if it's a broad need managing big, large solution base, doing that reliably. That's exactly what they do is the bread and butter. So the little nice things and customization. That's not what utilities do. But if they can find here, the x number of things that are broadly applicable, let's focus on how</p>
<p>13:33</p>
<p>can can you in this digital transformation, be confident that maybe the price could go down? Or is that sort of one of those, hey, if you do this, this is your sort of price, but whatever it might be, but I think that that's a pretty good thing. If we can do that.</p>
<p>13:53</p>
<p>Yeah, for sure. What I think that that's, especially in terms of, I mean, so much of what utilities focus on and do and so much of their investments go to producing their own, you know, operational expenses, which is what you know, that's the stuff that we all have to pay for, as ratepayers. So that is always, always top of mind for them. So</p>
<p>14:12</p>
<p>that whole conversation around the regulatory environment, the rate case, that has to change that has, and when you said nimble, I'm thinking to myself, nope, I never said utility, right, nimble in the same sentence. It says, but it has to happen. And then when you start talking about the regulators, they have to rethink That's right. They have to figure out whatever that needs to be. That's right. Those are tough. It is tough, and I the tough, tough stuff. A lot of people get a hold of your</p>
<p>14:45</p>
<p>tie. They can reach me on my email at TYT dot Roberts at Itron.com.</p>
<p>14:52</p>
<p>That was a great conversation. Thank you. I like that. I I don't know what to do. It's way above my paygrade not yours. is our square in the middle of it, you better have that pay grade. I'm just that plucky sidekick All right listeners, you're gonna have all the contact information for Ty out on industrial talk.com industrial talk.com. So if you're not reach out to this gent, because and I try. I mean, they're really doing some great stuff out there. And I think it's it you guys are unsung heroes. How about that? The unsung heroes of utilities. All right, thank you once again for joining the industrial talk. We will wrap it up on the other side. So stay tuned, we will be right back.</p>
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<p>15:42</p>
<p>That was Ty Roberts Itron is the company Thank you very much for joining industrial talk and for your support, go out to Ty robbers. It's all out into industrial talk.com. His stead card, his LinkedIn stack card is right there. You just go out to industrial dock, you find di you click on it, boom, you're in a stat card, and you're reaching out to him because you need to if you're in the energy business, yeah, you need to reach out to Ty if you're in the utility business. Yes, if you're in the whatever business, I think he's a great guy to connect with because he gets it. Yep. That was a great conversation over there. That was DistribuTECH 22. DistribuTECH is right around the corner 23. We're going to have some more great conversations from this particular event, and much, much more. All right, go out to industrial talk. You're saying to yourself, Scott, how do I get engaged? I'll teach you go out to industrial talk. And I said, Hey, Scott, how do I connect with you? It's easy to just go out, you can go to my LinkedIn stat guard out there, and you can reach out to me either way. We need to tell your story. If you're an industry, you absolutely tell your story. And if you're making it, you're solving problems, and you can help people solve problems, companies, manufacturers, you name it. We need to talk to you. And we'll just feature you out on industrial talk, the number one industrial related podcast in the universe, backed up by data. All right. Thank you once again for joining. Thank you for your support. Be bold, be brave, daring greatly. I say it all the time because you are hanging out with people like Ty and you're gonna change the world, which you are. So thank you very much. We're going to have another great conversation shortly. So stay tuned.</p>
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<p><strong>SUMMARY KEYWORDS</strong></p>
<p>Kellie, people, isolate, industrial, transmission, line, utility, power, switchgear, pole, interruption, world, exciting, opening, installed, electric, kv, industry, fault, booth</p>
<p>00:00</p>
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<p>00:55</p>
<p>welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott Mackenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So good on your hardhat. Grab your work boots. And let's get</p>
<p>01:12</p>
<p>right once again, welcome to industrial talk the number one industrial related podcast in the universe. And Kellie that's backed up by data. So don't even begin to say, Scott, that's a bunch of baloney. It's it's data.</p>
<p>01:23</p>
<p>I don't trust your data.</p>
<p>01:25</p>
<p>Got it. It's all data analytics. And we are broadcasting live from the DistribuTECH. Dallas is the town DistribuTECH 22 great venue, incredible people solving problems, of course, and making our lives better. That's why we celebrate you on this ever-expanding industrial ecosystem of problem solvers. That's right. Kellie is in the hot seat. G&W Electric is the company. We're going to be talking about distribution automation. So let's get cracking. Because doesn't it? I like it. I like it a lot. You have a good conference?</p>
<p>02:05</p>
<p>It's been good. Yeah. Very, pretty cool. Yeah. Lots of see. Lots to learn.</p>
<p>02:11</p>
<p>It never stops. So we've been out wet for two to two years or so two years ish. Yes. And the innovation just keeps on going and going. And people change. And one of the things I've been asking a lot of people have been talking to so these people that you connected with virtually? Was it a unique experience? Hey, hey, hey, you look, I only know you virtually</p>
<p>02:34</p>
<p>Yes, actually to give a hug to a guy yesterday, because it was the first time I've seen him in two years. And we've had zoom calls, he's lives in Singapore, and he was here in person. I was so excited.</p>
<p>02:46</p>
<p>Just like the same thing. I saw some people walking by yelling out. All right, for the listeners out there, Kellie give us a little background on who you are, and why you're such an incredible professional.</p>
<p>02:59</p>
<p>So so I'm Kellie, and I'm the Director of Global Marketing Communications for GW electric. I've been with the company for five years this year, and focused on transforming our marketing function into driver of sales. So it's super exciting. We've made a lot of headway. And our organization manufactures power grid solutions. We've been around since 1905.</p>
<p>03:23</p>
<p>Yeah, no. Power, because you guys are right in the thick of it.</p>
<p>03:27</p>
<p>Yes. Yes. Which is exciting. It is lots of opportunity.</p>
<p>03:31</p>
<p>Yes. A lot of innovation, a lot of creativity, a lot of a lot of problem solving, because I just because if you've been around since, well, 1905 1905. So you're you've got that that pedigree and traditional grid management, right. And it's there's that legacy thinking that goes on. And now you have to as a company, pivot, do whatever is necessary for this brave new world out there. Absolutely. But you can do it because you guys are leaders. Yes. That's great. Yeah, you can use that. All right, let's talk about this, this distribution, automation.</p>
<p>04:09</p>
<p>I mean, it's really kind of the core focus of what distribute tech is about. So it's a great show for us to attend. One of the solutions that we offer, GW Electric is our laser automation program. So basically, it's a software program that we program into the relay that allows us to have control remotely with our reclosers that are installed on the on the poles and then also within the switchgear that can either be in the underground situation or on a pad mount. And then it allows you to find out where that fault is remotely, you can isolate it so that you can actually allow more people to keep their power on in certain situations and power from other areas and only isolate where that fault is.</p>
<p>04:53</p>
<p>So the reality is is that and correct me if I'm wrong. I'm gentle laid on out. So there's is an interruption on the line? Yes, people are out, you're able to identify where that that disruption occurred, open up the switches, do whatever need isolate it and then bring back the power on on the other feeders that are impacted. So you just narrow it down. Right there.</p>
<p>05:15</p>
<p>Yes. You don't have to send your linemen out to go drive miles to find out where that tree branch might be, or where that fault is, you can do that remotely through the software. And then the software works with the reclosers. And it opens and closes the line. And if you're lucky enough,</p>
<p>05:30</p>
<p>so that's it. It does it automatically. Yes. So you don't even have to the system says, yeah. So that brings back memories. I'm opening up switches outside, I'm on the pole opening up. Opening up the pole. It's like, you don't have to do that either. Like it's getting called out. Yeah, go to this pole. There's, excuse me, go to this poll. Open it up to this and you're going through all this rigmarole because you're not just opening up anything. It's got to be anything that is spectacular. Yes. I kinda like that.</p>
<p>6:07</p>
<p>It is exciting. It is definitely exciting. And so we gave a presentation on it today. And then last year, we were awarded two patents for a newer version of fuzzer. Are you familiar with lizard? No, why not? Do you want to know what it means? Like do its fault location, isolation and service restoration?</p>
<p>06:29</p>
<p>Another term that I gotta rub down a lizard.</p>
<p>06:31</p>
<p>It's a pretty common one. So yep. Stick that one. In your head.</p>
<p>06:37</p>
<p>Not not when you're an old guy like me. And you know, my world is just a little bit narrower than your world. That's lizard. I love that. See, that was always that's a lot of time. The old way of doing that. That's a lot of time patrol it figure it out. There's the problem. Okay, you can do that. Can you shut it down? And you're just going through all of this. But you have automated that. Right? So it's like, okay, this line is out. There's the fault. Open up these these switches, boom, isolated, and energize the other areas. Exactly. Yes. People like that. Yeah, I don't know that they like it. But they like it.</p>
<p>07:10</p>
<p>Well, definitely the end users like it. Yeah, but utilities are really like, Okay, I</p>
<p>07:14</p>
<p>got the utilities like and it because they're not getting the complaints. Yes. But I guarantee the standard Joe six pack me. Like, I don't know that. All I know is I just had a bit of an interruption of powers back on. Okay, I'm good. I'm good. It's it's pretty binary. Hey, what's got all I'm okay.</p>
<p>07:34</p>
<p>Yeah, I'm good. Everything's wrong.</p>
<p>07:36</p>
<p>It's so funny. That's so true. And I do. So here's here's the funny thing. And this is a this is a human side. So my dad was alive. And we we lived in Barstow, California middle of nowhere. And we get these wind storms. And he was in distribution. And, and windstorm would come and then you'd see the lights dim a little bit. Yes. So you get a little delay. And then my dad would just stop it. And then he listened again, then another and then another one, and then putting the phone would ring lock out whatever it is. Yeah, don't answer the phone. Exactly. I do the same thing. Still. I do I'll just sit there and go was that here's another one.</p>
<p>08:22</p>
<p>Oh my gosh, but when you see it go on and on and off and then it stays on that means you know that the equipment on That's</p>
<p>08:29</p>
<p>exactly right. I am a I'm a better person because of this conversation because exactly right. Yeah. And the interruptions. I think that's brilliant.</p>
<p>08:38</p>
<p>Yeah, and the best part of of what we have over at our booth right now is in February we launched the first ever in the world 69 kV, KV recloser that's on the pole top get shot or automation software program and allows you this functionality now at a substation level and it's and you don't have to build your you know, circuit breakers your substations and have a lot of maintenance with that equipment now you've got your medium voltage technology up on the pole at the 69 KV level.</p>
<p>09:11</p>
<p>You're blowing my mind on that one. Because you know once again, it's transmission that was like the transmission voltage and and no, you you almost went from CB to CB and you isolated that line and and because the the relays were set so quickly, you couldn't even see that they would lock out in a chat second, right? And it was like six cycles. He couldn't even see the mark. But you had to try to you had to patrol the line at church telling me that you'll say this span this band there it is right there.</p>
<p>09:43</p>
<p>Yes. At a sub transmission level.</p>
<p>09:47</p>
<p>What sub transmission voltammetry what is it?</p>
<p>09:50</p>
<p>Well, the equipment that we have is up to 72 KB.</p>
<p>09:54</p>
<p>Okay, good. We call that Sub Sub Sub transmission</p>
<p>09:59</p>
<p>and some liking Canada, they look at 44 KB and this particular product goes up to 72. At this point in time,</p>
<p>10:06</p>
<p>what does that look like on a poll? You</p>
<p>10:08</p>
<p>have to come see it. It's in our booth. You missed it.</p>
<p>10:12</p>
<p>Well, I was too busy just running by I'm in a salt mine right here. Yeah. Kellie, it's just is what it</p>
<p>10:17</p>
<p>It's probably as tall as you. One might one phases probably as tall as you really? Yeah.</p>
<p>10:24</p>
<p>Can you stick it on a tower? You have to stick it on some steel structure? Are you sticking? You're not sticking it on wood?</p>
<p>10:30</p>
<p>No, it's not. Now they're they're cement, full structure holes.</p>
<p>10:36</p>
<p>I gotta run over there. Yeah,</p>
<p>10:37</p>
<p>we installed, we installed our first ones out in the Northeast with a utility last fall.</p>
<p>10:44</p>
<p>Wow. That's cool. And I'm sorry for coughing just because I've been talking forever. And it is just tickled. And I'm not going to sit there and coughing my mic.</p>
<p>10:51</p>
<p>Too much that's making me giggle and</p>
<p>10:53</p>
<p>get all giddy about this whole conversation. It's like, oh, I can't believe it. No, this is insane. So</p>
<p>11:00</p>
<p>if you think about all the transmission lines that we have in the art, you know, antiquated system that we have now we have better ability to, you know, isolate that certain parts so that you can keep more more end users more distribution lines, running power.</p>
<p>11:16</p>
<p>You know, what's interesting? I don't think the end user, the customer realizes how brilliant that is. Because they don't it's just one of those things like they just don't they take it for granted. Yeah,</p>
<p>11:29</p>
<p>well, and it's new. So you know, the technology is not new, right? So our medium voltage recloser. It's based off of the same technology, same functionality. So it's not new, the technology is not new, but it is new at that level. And so you have a new customer base, you've got your transmission customers now that we get to educate and teach them and get them excited about it.</p>
<p>11:52</p>
<p>God, I'm telling you, man, I'm always I just I constantly think of the time when I'm out on a pole and opening that switch, right? I'm on it. And we were always concerned about the whip, right? You hit the whip, and then you start this, you pull it and then you just gotta pull it down fast. And you just hope it doesn't just are there are a couple of times that we just aren't. Oh my gosh, what do we do? Show me? Screaming grandma, and that doesn't happen. Yep. Helps</p>
<p>12:17</p>
<p>from a safety for safety. Big time. Yes. Yes. And less maintenance. Yes, everything. Yes.</p>
<p>12:25</p>
<p>This is a brave new world.</p>
<p>12:27</p>
<p>It's exciting. It</p>
<p>12:28</p>
<p>So tell me some new stuff that's coming down the pike that you guys.</p>
<p>12:34</p>
<p>Well, so the the Viper HV that we just talked about 69 KV recloser that we just launched, we acquired a company out of Italy in 2019 that manufactures high accuracy sensors. So we've got current and voltage sensors that are indoor and outdoor that can be integrated into your switchgear that will help you also from a visibility around what's happening within your current your voltage within the system and help you to make some adjustments so you can get smarter about how you're running your lines. And then probably more exciting. Or another exciting topic for us is that we're building our own micro grid on our corporate headquarters campus right now. And so</p>
<p>13:18</p>
<p>well, you got the tools you can do that. The gear</p>
<p>13:22</p>
<p>we do we have the gear, we obviously you need. You need to partner with some other corporations or other companies. You know, we've got solar, we have batteries that we've installed a flywheel that we've installed and you really</p>
<p>13:37</p>
<p>want to go there. Can I go there?</p>
<p>13:39</p>
<p>You absolutely can. We will be hopefully doing a nice media event to bring in a tour of our control center. That will be later this year.</p>
<p>13:51</p>
<p>What do you guys call home? Where's that microphone gonna be?</p>
<p>13:54</p>
<p>So it's in Bolingbrook, Illinois, just the south suburb of Chicago.</p>
<p>13:59</p>
<p>I was just up there. Okay, we're gonna make that happen. Yes, we have to make it happen. This was this was a great conversation. I am not disappointed whatsoever.</p>
<p>14:10</p>
<p>All right, me neither.</p>
<p>14:12</p>
<p>How do people get a hold here? Because this is just, I gotta run over there. Let's run over to your sponsor. Let's skip on over to check this stuff out. I know I'm going to be how did we get a hold here?</p>
<p>14:22</p>
<p>at our booth? 14. Oh, wait.</p>
<p>14:24</p>
<p>No, you, you. They want the human connection there. Kellie,</p>
<p>14:30</p>
<p>as in my email address.</p>
<p>14:32</p>
<p>I'll have it all out there. I'm gonna have your email address out there. I'm gonna have it out and I'm available.</p>
<p>14:36</p>
<p>Give me a call.</p>
<p>14:38</p>
<p>Oh, man, you got to connect with her. Because it's cool. Hey, we're getting our picture taken. Because that's how we roll. Alright listeners. Thank you very much for joining the industrial talk. Man. The future of utilities is bright public. I use bright sort of</p>
<p>14:52</p>
<p>light Well, pretty</p>
<p>14:54</p>
<p>smooth. All right. And we are broadcasting from DistribuTECH 22 Till and this is in Dallas. Texas a great venue great to have professionals, great innovators. Look at Kellie right here. She's amazing and G&W absolutely spot on. All right, we're gonna have all the contact information for Kellie at industrial talk.com. We will be right back. Thank you.</p>
<p>15:17</p>
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<p>15:22</p>
<p>All right, once again, thank you very much for joining industrial talk and supporting this particular platform because it celebrates you industry professionals all around the world, your message needs to be amplified because you guys are doing great things out there. And also, also big thank you to Kellie to booter. You can tell I geek out on that stuff just because with my utility background as a former journeyman lineman what they're doing at GE and double, G&W Electric fantastic stuff really geeking out on it. So anyway, you have a couple of action items one reach out to Kellie, if you are in the utility, energy, space, reach out to Kellie G&W Electric important action item for you. Also, if you are also in that industry, you need to attend distribute tech in 2023. It's going to be bigger, better and stronger and faster. Steve Austin that thing and you will not be disappointed. There is a lot of people solving really important problems happening within the utility and energy space. Great, great way of educating, collaborating, and of course, finding innovation to help you succeed in the future. All right, be bold, be brave. They are greatly hanging out with people like Kellie, and you're going to change the world. Thank you very much once again for supporting the does real talk. We're going to have another great conversation from DistribuTECH shortly so do not go away.</p>
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<p><strong>SUMMARY KEYWORDS</strong></p>
<p>utility, data, industrial, model, industry, analytics, solar, people, Patricia, vegetation management, happen, suddenly, put, power, measure, fast, professionals, interesting, outages, historical data</p>
<p><strong>SPEAKERS</strong></p>
<p>Scott MacKenzie</p>
<p>00:00</p>
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<p>00:56</p>
<p>welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott Mackenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hard hat, grab your work boots,</p>
<p>01:13</p>
<p>and let's Alright, once again, welcome to industrial talk the number one industrial related podcast in the universe. Patricia I'm not I'm not that's that's that's factual. By the way, it's all driven by data. That's why I'm the number one podcast in the world. And this is where we celebrate industry professionals from all around the world. Because you are bold, you are brave, you dare greatly. You solve problems. You innovate like nobody's business, and you're changing lives. And therefore you are changing the world each and every day. Why not celebrate. As you can tell, by the I guess the buzz in the background, we are broadcasting last scene live from DistribuTECH 2022. And incredible then you put this on your bucket list, because there are a lot of great professionals roaming around here. Again, solving problems. It's a great venue. I like it. All right in the hot seat. Patricia, say your last name petition was signed for cipher. eaten as the company. How are you doing? I am so thankful that you were so flexible to just pop on the podcast because you're busy person</p>
<p>02:22</p>
<p>will be eaten. And luckily we all I mean, everything changes at the moment in the utility industry. I mean, from you know, when I talked to my son, but 10 years ago, he was not like Mommy, I'm not really cool industry. But now oh, now I'm cool. And a cool mom. So that's I mean, the energy industry becomes really interesting. Also for the younger generation. They think about you know, global warming, the impact, how much energy should they use? What is the future? renewables? We have just installed solar, lots of them excited. And we have a battery at home. So</p>
<p>02:59</p>
<p>yeah, did you have a solar and battery? Yes. solution at your house?</p>
<p>03:03</p>
<p>I'm in the PSPS zone. So public safety power shut off multiple times last year. So I'm at the point. Well, I want to say</p>
<p>03:14</p>
<p>wouldn't mean you're out of California. Yes, exactly. I'm telling you. I don't know how to process this, that the utilities have to shut off power. Growing up in the utility my dad was with Southern California I was alignment. And that that conversation never happened. Oh, never. And now it's like, this is how we manage this is what we do. This is the expectations. It's just bizarre. Do you think that we'll ever get to a point where, I mean, we're transitioning and it's all you know, pretty dynamic out there. But shutting down power is just an interesting challenge. And</p>
<p>03:52</p>
<p>it's just a customer, you're absolutely not happy, especially when your sewer system or I happen to a pump doesn't work. You feel like you know, you're gonna feel dwells completely. So yes, it's it's frustrating, but I understand. I mean, we've had horrible fails in California. I think some of the utility maybe have not invested enough. And that's me as a customer speaking. But, I mean, you know, if it's a trade off not having electricity on your house building down, I will always take not having him. So it's up to you. Oh,</p>
<p>04:32</p>
<p>Yeah, that's, that's yeah, that makes sense. Definitely. But it's, it's, it's but but but what I do here, there are people talking companies like yours and others, talking about solutions on how to transition into this, this new thing. It's happening so fast, but they're able to, they're starting to think through that.</p>
<p>04:55</p>
<p>They'll definitely analytics I mean, you can measure it in different ways but you Um, one of the analytics I worked on, was looking at momentary outages momentary outages is when a branch hits a line or something like that</p>
<p>05:09</p>
<p>relays test that's exactly required.</p>
<p>05:13</p>
<p>And so you can begin to measure those and say, hey, well, where does it happen along the network. And when you know, wherever it happens, you can begin to more effectively cut to the bushes, and</p>
<p>05:26</p>
<p>you start talking about vegetation management. But the reality is, you're right. If you are tracking these interruptions, then you can also pull in some weather, you can pull in, you can pull in various sources of data to create that picture of say, get a Triq crew out there.</p>
<p>05:44</p>
<p>Get caught it early, you know, vegetation management is one of the most expensive costs or utility.</p>
<p>05:51</p>
<p>And it's, it's, it's, it's part of that whole delivery of service. And it's constantly having issues and it's expensive. And everybody's trying to figure out the best way to</p>
<p>06:03</p>
<p>do it exactly. In many ways. I mean, momentary outages, this one, putting sensors out there to measure these, or outages. And that's, that's fairly a way to do it. And I think that's, that's something we have to do. Otherwise, you have to undercount everything, which is also expensive. Yeah,</p>
<p>06:21</p>
<p>you can't do that too, because then you have all the other, can I underground here? Do I have to get the easement? Do I, what do I do here? How do I do? There's just so many other things? And that's not gonna</p>
<p>06:30</p>
<p>happen overnight? No. And then monitoring goes again, you don't see it anymore? No, you don't. If you do need more equipment in the field to monitor those lines to make sure what you don't see you still have some insights into it. And, again, analytics, and I think analytics is fairly well we go in with do you tell if</p>
<p>06:50</p>
<p>you're, I think you're spot on. And I think what I'm hearing clear, loud and clear that these this event is that utilities, and let's just be honest, utilities are the ones that are really driving, that they're the ones right, they're the ones that have this obligation to serve their territory, and therefore, how do we do it most effectively, they've got, you know, pressures on it. So they're going to drive this adoption in this this going forward. But what I do here is that there are a lot of, you know, arrows in their quiver to be able to provide that insights, data analytics, all of the stuff that is necessary to make sound decisions, tactical decisions.</p>
<p>07:29</p>
<p>Exactly. And especially people like me, suddenly, we say, I want to have my own electricity. And if I have too much, I will give it back to the network. And that's a challenge for utilities too. And I think that's something a lot of people don't realize, they all think it's the customer, it's the customer, the customer is very, very important. But having the distributed network, the distribution network is really up and running. It's a major challenge.</p>
<p>07:56</p>
<p>Again, I'm sort of old school, old school, when I say this, though, when I went to the system operators, for watching the system, and seeing how they app manage that. It was challenged back when you had the centralized generation, and they you know, now it's all distributed. And and you have a battery, they have batteries, and be able to do it in such a way that makes sense. And in fact, if I don't know how to do it,</p>
<p>08:21</p>
<p>and interesting data analytics to you see that? It is solar, it's clustering. So it's really, oh, my neighbor has solar, they had to add, let's get an EV. Let's get solar maybe to talk to each other. And they find out oh, that's really cool. Let's have to do you have this clusters. And that makes it difficult for utility to Because suddenly, an EV can use as much as your whole house and electricity. But the transform was not laid out for that</p>
<p>08:49</p>
<p>the infrastructure is not there. How do we do</p>
<p>08:53</p>
<p>that? Suddenly, it doubles your electricity consumption. So how do you build a network that it holds up that you're aware of it? What's happening out in the field? And solar very often you have to mention to the utility and you have to get a permit for that can't just plug it in?</p>
<p>09:10</p>
<p>You know, it's just like air. There we go. So let's talk a little bit about that bright layer. What is that</p>
<p>09:15</p>
<p>white layer is really our digital solution. Looking really at what we just talked about? Collecting the data mainly on the distribution network, collecting the data, looking at the data and making informed decision for the utility helped them. Well, like we have one planning tool. And well, do you want to put your solar installation, your wind installation? What will be the impact on your network? Information like that? So that that really helps you to think about what will be the impact? And where do you want to put additional resources in Dell? Or if you want to build an extra neighborhood, what will be the impact on the distribution network? How do I have to build it? What kind of cables do I need? What kind of transformers do I need?</p>
<p>10:03</p>
<p>Do you also speculate or look out into the future to and say, Hey, this is a growing community, therefore, you don't need three, you need 954 wire you need whatever, you need a bigger capacity because it's going to expand</p>
<p>10:17</p>
<p>exactly what customers forecasting. So you have to forecast you do at load analysis thinking as to what will be the future loading, then you can put in the planning model, and then you can calculate what is the infrastructure? And where do I best put it in without have the least impact on changing our infrastructure?</p>
<p>10:37</p>
<p>So you have this platform? Do I Do I put in historical data within a community? Does it learn does? Is there an AI analytics component or what? So I have to put data in to get some sort of information out? Yes, take us through that process. So</p>
<p>10:54</p>
<p>normally, when you don't different ways to do analytics, one is you fail the test the model, you get data, historical data, to look back up the future, that's really testing and informing the model. That is another way to just give the data and say, Hey, where are the outliers. So let's say put pictures of dogs and cats and, and the system will say, Oh, this, these are two legged, these are four legged, they look the same, but they will not say this is a duck, this is a cat. But when you do Bailey trained a model, you say this is a duck, this is a cat, and it will find the toxic cats and label it this is this is so different ways to do. Machine.</p>
<p>11:42</p>
<p>Because here's an interesting, you know, as well as I do utilities, there's been that sort of singular focus and the singular focus is deliver power at the lowest possible costs. For the consumer, they're sort of pretty simple. And it makes sense, reliable, right? Don't interrupt things like that. So that's pretty simple. And it's and your decisions all revolve around that from a utility perspective. Do you find that utilities as this, this journey begins and it's fast? It's just oddly fast? Able to sort of, do it be nimble enough, sort of retain that same sort of thinking, but do you find that, you know, are you getting good data to be able to do what you need to do? I mean, it's sort of interesting.</p>
<p>12:34</p>
<p>We looked at, you know, consumption to predict consumption, how, ultimately, you know, COVID consumption change quite a bit, because people begin to work at home. And Sunday, the coal consumption, pedal change. And so you know, you need weather data to predict what will be the consumption. And these models change over time, like, two years ago, in California, we had this huge piles. And suddenly, we had all the smoke in the air. And a lot of the solo didn't work anymore, because we almost had a nuclear winter, it got colder, and the solar didn't work. And so then we had to change our model again and say, Oh, we have to take this parameter. So and analytics is not just done, your environment changes, and you have to adjust to that.</p>
<p>13:26</p>
<p>But those are statistical outliers. You can, although you have to model it. Is it going to happen again? Or do you see this as this?</p>
<p>13:34</p>
<p>But you can you can, you know, you see, okay, Napa Valley, you have a fire, you know how the wind goes. So you can make some assumptions? Say, Yes, it could come in this direction, what would be the impact? You have another 20%, something like that, but still some certainty what could happen?</p>
<p>13:54</p>
<p>Yeah, you can do this. So you run simulations to absolutely he's like, okay, here, well, let's, let's use this and this. What does that look like? Okay, let's change this parameter. That parameter. Let's see what it looks like.</p>
<p>14:07</p>
<p>Yeah. So I will hold Sam software. It's all about planning. What if model? What if I do a put a tee? Or what if I do that? Yes, exactly. So that you make the best decision you can with the least cost.</p>
<p>14:20</p>
<p>So let's say I'm a utility. And I'm interested in having this type of data visibility. So I contact you. Then he says, Yep, got it. We can do something we see it we have. How long does it take for you to deploy a system like this? I'm sure it evolves. It sort of grows and learns and does what it needs to do. But just from a baseline perspective, being able to generate real information that helps them make tactical decisions.</p>
<p>14:53</p>
<p>That's not an easy question, because very often we need that historical data to thank them All and very often is how fast can utility providers? How often can they get people to get that data, gather that data? And then we have to cleanse the data first, and then analyze it very often, we can really work together for a proof of concept or something in the beginning to really, do we solve their pain points? Do we measure the right stuff? I would say, somewhere between three to nine months, depending on how big the project is, and how close we are. Yeah. And</p>
<p>15:28</p>
<p>what I hear is there's a human component, and if they had a major focus on saying, Okay, let's get the data. They're asking for this, this, this, this, this, whatever, whatever it is, but then we can do it much faster. That's exactly correct. And it's always but but this, this, this, this, this, and then I have to do that, that, that that that and then there's a there's a, but you bring up an interesting point that there's that necessity just to scrub that data? Yeah,</p>
<p>15:49</p>
<p>absolutely. I mean, you get the data and suddenly think, is that data like that? And then you go back and said, I had one example. Well, we measured phases, and one was 0236. And suddenly, we had a minus 180. And it's like, what is that? And I said, Oh, we have made of the measure plus 180 minus 100. I didn't say what two 360. So and simple case, but if you don't know that you think a negative value, but what's wrong here? But it's just a different medium. And so you have to normalize and clean the data.</p>
<p>16:23</p>
<p>And again, that's on a case by case basis most definitely because we've all been there.</p>
<p>16:29</p>
<p>Some there are still some very old needles out there as well. Infrastructure with</p>
<p>16:33</p>
<p>Yes, and each utility is different. Each service territory is different each every everything is different. Construction Standards, wiring, you name it, it's different.</p>
<p>16:44</p>
<p>And some devices don't give take on some gift data. So you also have often to estimate stuff. If I don't get data here. What is the estimation what is the best estimation I can do?</p>
<p>16:56</p>
<p>I hear job security. Because it never ends. I will never</p>
<p>17:01</p>
<p>end I think you know that people think that will be out of a job. No, I think that what's interesting chops. Yes.</p>
<p>17:07</p>
<p>That is spot on. All right. How did they get a hold of you? Patricia? They're saying that she is talking my talk. How do I get a hold you</p>
<p>17:15</p>
<p>just reach me at Patty Seifert.</p>
<p>17:19</p>
<p>Easy peasy. All right. Listen, this, we're gonna have all the contact information for Patricia out there on industrial talk.com. Once again, we're broadcasting from DistribuTECH 22, here in Dallas, excellent. Perfect. Like, like, like Patricia's professionals, follow on like her like they're Enjoy. Thank you very much for joining and we will be right back.</p>
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<p><strong>SUMMARY KEYWORDS</strong></p>
<p>vegetation management, storm, utilities, ai, dash, satellite, module, prediction, product, vegetation, rahul, companies, great, solution, predict, plan, disaster, assets, distribute, encroachment</p>
<p>00:00</p>
<p>Industrial Talk is brought to you by Armis. Yes, you are in the digital transformation game. Yes, you need to find trusted companies, trusted individuals to help you along with that journey. The Armis platform delivers complete asset intelligence, you know what that means, insights into your connected assets, you're in the digital transformation game, you have to have that insights into what is connected, go to armis.com Find out more, you will not be disappointed. Also, AiDash, AiDash is on a mission to create a greener, cleaner, safer planet from space. AiDash helps core industries become more resilient, efficient, and sustainable through the power of satellites and AI. Go out to AiDash.com find out more. On this episode of industrial talk. We are broadcasting live on site, distribute tech 22. And if you need to go to an event, and you're in the energy and utility space, that is a conference for you, incredible professionals, great companies providing incredible solutions, solving problems. We were also very fortunate to run into Rahul Saxena, CTO and Co-Founder at AiDash. And I'm telling you right now they've got incredible technology, helping utilities deal with their maintenance challenges around the world. It doesn't matter because they do it from the sky. Enjoy the conversation with Rahul. Hey, how you doing?</p>
<p>01:44</p>
<p>Doing great. Glad to be here, Scott.</p>
<p>01:46</p>
<p>Pretty cool. We're back in sort of person. That's for me. I like it. Yep. He's got a great booth over there. A lot of buzz over there, too. Yeah, that's right. You know, that's, that's always a good thing, right? Yep. All right. For the listeners out there. Let's talk a little bit about Rahul and and give us a little background, then we're going to start talking a little bit about AiDash for the individuals that don't know anything about it. And then we're gonna start talking about some interesting news that exists with AI data. So give us the background revenue.</p>
<p>02:17</p>
<p>Sure. So hi, everyone, Rahul Saxena. I am co-founder and CTO at AiDash, dash, we use the technology around satellites and AI to solve problems around operations, maintenance and sustainability for companies which have distributed assets, namely power utilities, which this conference is all about. So we have different products around the asset management, like vegetation management, we offer IBMs, or there is something around encroachment into gas and electric utilities. And then we have a couple of words around sustainability say,</p>
<p>02:51</p>
<p>see what's interesting about it, I enjoy the fact that that leveraging satellite, in conjunction with an AI platform allows utilities, specifically here, just because we're at distribute tech, utilities have a better insight, better capabilities for managing assets from a vegetation perspective. Is that sort of an accurate statement? Am I leaving anything out there?</p>
<p>03:15</p>
<p>That's absolutely correct. So So vegetation management specifically is a big issue with utilities. There is a huge, yep. Yep. So we have a product, which is live and currently being used by 50 customers all over the world, family in us.</p>
<p>03:31</p>
<p>For for the listeners out there when we start talking about vegetation management from a utility perspective, but what is the typical spin for utilities?</p>
<p>03:41</p>
<p>So typical spend for utilities, depending on how big their distribution network and transmission line network can be anywhere, not from couple of millions to you know, 200 million or more worth of annual spend.</p>
<p>03:55</p>
<p>And seeing and that's typically, typically from my my history, real reactive to a certain extent you try to plan. But the reality is, is that other things sort of take precedent, you just don't. It's a sort of a unique, unique situation. And here's a solution that says, Now you go over here, that's the here's the reason why, and then don't worry about over here. And they were able to really direct resources, valuable resources in a way that makes sense. So that's, that's, that's pretty good. All right. There's other things. It's not just vegetation management, we're talking about AiDash with the solutions of satellites and the AI component. What else can we do with it? What else like what, what other value can we gain from that? Like there's a you guys have a press release? You're expanding your capabilities?</p>
<p>04:51</p>
<p>Sure. Yeah. Let me get get straight to it. So yeah, so yeah, apart from these products, so we today earlier today announced the next product. So again on the asset management side, yep. So apart from vegetation management, now we are getting into things around disaster and disruption management. So there are a lot of Disasters are happening, they were like around 15 disasters just last year, causing a havoc, which took almost like a $1 billion kind of spent. Right. So that's kind of a diamond. So, so so. So well, while you're working the satellite, and AI and other products, we felt this technology can really be used to solve these use cases, which are really becoming very important for utilities.</p>
<p>05:32</p>
<p>But given an example of let's say, Me from Louisiana, we had our hurricane. And of course, everybody's, when power's out, people are not happy. So how does the solution that AiDash provides help with that disaster, and in the recovery of that?</p>
<p>05:53</p>
<p>Sure. So for any storm, there are three stages, before, during and after. So what we do is before the storm, typically utilities will get into great hardening and greater resiliency activities, you want to make sure the storms, the poles are all okay, you replace the poles, which are not good. Maybe set up some flood gates, you raise the height of the substations, we do all that stuff. So that's, that's what you do before. So using this product, so we have a great hardening module, where you can plan all these activities, you can do prioritization, you can do management, you can have an app which can use now you see certain field workers in the field and track it all in one place. So that's the prevention. So predict and prevent kind of a stage where you use, you know, satellite imagery to predict and then use this module to prevent it, then as you get closer to the storm, so typically, our model starts predicting the storm and the impact 72 hours before the storm. So usually, that has been a challenge so far. So the sooner you know, you the better you can plan, you can deploy the resources correctly, you can actually, you know, get the right resources much in advance. So we have a resource prediction module as well. So it gives a extent of damage, which is predicted based on the outage. So it takes into account different things it takes into account, what was the you know, damage based on the previous similar storms, it takes care of the weather data to figure out the, you know, what could be the damage caused by the new storm, you take all that into account and come with a damage prediction, as well as a resource or climate model? So you can do all that, right?</p>
<p>07:32</p>
<p>I, that just makes so much sense. If utilities, and this is always a conversation I'd have with people is like, okay, here comes a storm? Did the utility do their part to strengthen that grid? You don't know? You know, I don't know. I don't know if those conversations are happening. Or in many cases, in the case of Louisiana, we find that here's a storm, here's another storm, and it's hard to even get ahead of that grid, you know, strengthening component because we're just trying to get the power backup. Yep. But I'm always fascinated by during like, our last storm, how do they determine where to deploy the resources, where, you know, everybody starts coming in from different states saying, hey, you need help. Here we go, we got some lineman blah, blah, blah. To do that, effectively, that just means for me as a consumer, my power gets up sooner.</p>
<p>08:28</p>
<p>Exactly. So so the idea here is we take into account the weather data, and we try to work with different vendors, which can get us satellite data in near real time, real time is not possible. But you can get near real time. And you know, as we learn more and more about your GPS, as we work with different customers do different pilots and take them to production, we learn more and more the model gets keeps getting more accurate. So you can do a better predictions as you go along. And after the storm has passed, again, you can do some scans from satellites, you can use our app and web component to track this real time that is tradition activities, and try to make it more efficient.</p>
<p>09:01</p>
<p>As seen, and of course, we're after the storm, right? You know, you're okay, so you got to the satellite, you're looking at it, you're saying hey, oh, this is this has impacted this has impacted you could sort of hold off here. You can make those those predictions, those tactical decisions, which is very good. But then it just sort of loops right back to grid stabilization, because he just had now it's after stabilize it, and then you keep on learning as you keep on going. And so ideally, correct me if I'm wrong, that the impact over a period of time will be less. I'm not saying it's gonna go away. There will be power outages, there will be vegetation and for whatever flying into poles, whatever it might be, but you can have a greater confidence that maybe the impact will be minimized.</p>
<p>09:50</p>
<p>So that's exactly right. So apart from these three modules, great heightening preparedness, and then the the resolution of the A repair work, we also have a module called retrospect, wherein you can, you can analyze, you know, what you predicted and what you actually saw. So over a period of time as more than most on some happened, you learn more. And you can also generate your regulatory reports from there.</p>
<p>10:14</p>
<p>And you know, what's great about this is the fact that me consumer, I can be a manufacturer, I can be whatever I mean, it doesn't matter. I'm a consumer of power, I want reliable power, I want to know that the utilities are using all the tools available to be able to ensure that the power is delivered. And I see the use of satellite AiDash, all of that in conjunction is only a and the ability to just have that bird's eye view that ability to say yes. And then taking limited resources money. Yeah, and deploying it properly. That's a heck of a solution. I'm all giddy about it.</p>
<p>10:58</p>
<p>Sure, yeah. So we're excited as well to, you know, solve this big, big issue.</p>
<p>11:02</p>
<p>And where do you where do you see it going? Because Because I see there's a velocity with technology, I see that innovation is like really fast. I see. Use cases being developed as a result of going Yeah, I saw that I got this and we just put them together. Now we have, where do you sort of see where AiDash is going and what's been what's happening there.</p>
<p>11:21</p>
<p>So I think from as we have our earlier product around vegetation management and coastline management are now this new launch with DDMs. So we're trying to, you know, manage everything around the assets at scale. Right. So the idea is to get into all these different issues, whether it's vegetation encroachment disaster, so have one solution, which you know, has different products, where you can link everything together. So for example, we do vegetation management, so if a customer takes our vegetation management product, as well as DDMs product, so we already have the vegetation data. So sometimes they might want to combine their plant so as so that let's say they have a vegetation plan, which is a plant, which is planned out, and a storm comes at it, you know, the plan goes on, right? So you can have the DDMS pick data from vegetation and you know, make sure both the plants are in sync.</p>
<p>12:07</p>
<p>I'm telling you, man, you guys are at the cutting edge. I love what you guys are doing. And it's it's impressive. I I can't say that enough. Because being an old guy like me, we used to just be real reactive with our asset management. And I mean, real reactive. It rained and so he just like, Oh, I gotta go out there and trim trees. Or, hey, the storm came through seems like a branch felon or whatever, you know, it doesn't matter. How does somebody get a hold of you and just love exactly what you guys are talking</p>
<p>12:35</p>
<p>about how they get selected is the best place to reach out to me and I'm</p>
<p>12:39</p>
<p>very good. All right, listeners. Rose the man. Hey, I dashes the company. I will have all the contact information for AiDash Rahul out on industrial talk.com You need to reach out to this company. It's fantastic. They're doing great things and it never stops. You guys never stop. Because you guys just sort of eat drink this stuff on. Exactly. sort of sad and good. Thank you for doing it. But anyway, all right, listeners. We're gonna be right back. So stay tuned, we will be back with another great conversation shortly. So stay tuned. You're listening to the industrial talk Podcast Network. All right. Once again, thank you very much for joining industrial talk and a hearty thank you to Rahul Saksena, CTO and co founder of AiDash, delivering the technology delivering the innovation to help utilities definitely deal with their vegetation management. It's a brave new world out there. And it's being led by companies like AiDash, excellent conversation, exciting Most definitely. Also, you need to find trusted, trusted Sherpas to help you through this whole technology. AiDash is definitely one of those companies. All right. You need to go to distribute tech 22 must attend. It has great companies, great people solving problems. And if you're in the utility and energy market, it is a must attend, you will not be disappointed. I wasn't disappointed. But you could tell there was a lot of buzz going on there on the floor because it's pretty noisy and raucous crowd. Put that on your calendar. All right. People be brave dare greatly hang out with people like Rahul and you're going to change the world. Thank you very much. We're going to have another great conversation shortly. So you're not going to</p>
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<p><strong>SUMMARY KEYWORDS</strong></p>
<p>grid, power, DOE, industrial, doe, conversation, charging, digital transformation, manage, latency, assets, security, energy, people, tx, utility, iot, part, complexity, chief information officer</p>
<p>00:00</p>
<p>Industrial Talk is brought to you by TXOne now you know cybersecurity is important if you're on this digital transformation journey, TX One networks has the solutions for you. And you're saying to yourself, Scott, they're going to be complex, they're going to be difficult. No TXOne's taken that into consideration. And they provide a suite of solutions that truly meet your cybersecurity needs go out to TX, one dash networks.com and find out more, you're not going to be disappointed. Also industry IoT Consortium. At Industrial Talk, we always talk about education, we always talk about collaboration, we are always talking about innovation. And if you're a business that has any desire to be resilient to the future, you need to be able to educate, collaborate, as well as innovate with other industry professionals. That's a must. Industry IoT Consortium brings that all together, you need to be a part of this community, you need to be connected with these leaders that are all apart the industry IoT consortium, go out to ai consortium.org. Find out more, again, you will not be disappointed, you're just going to be happy on this episode of Industrial Talk live. Ann Duncan is in the hot seat. She is the Chief Information Officer at the US Department of Energy, and also the Digital Transformation Lead. And we're going to be talking about utility, digital transformation that market, it's an incredible conversation that you need to be aware of also events that I will be broadcasting on site. So put those on your calendars, we're going to be talking about those, and how to get involved with this ever expanding ecosystem called Industrial Talk. Let's get cracking.</p>
<p>01:56</p>
<p>Hey there and thank you very much for joining Industrial Talk the ever-expanding industrial ecosystem of leaders and problem solvers, making our lives better, you need to be a part of the Industrial Talk ecosystem. It's fun because you know why we are dedicated to education? Yes, check. We are also dedicated to collaborating because we don't have all the answers, you don't have all the answers, but you need to collaborate with trusted professionals. And finally, innovate, we also have to innovate, we also have to continue to push that envelope and digital transformation is definitely a conversation that is always being discussed on Industrial Talk. So get involved. All right, we've got a couple of things that I want to make sure that we get out. First one, I talked about some events that if you want to be if you have a desire to be interviewed on Industrial Talk, we have a great time, we're going to be at a couple of events. And if they're on your calendar, that's great. If they're not put them on your calendar, the first one that I want to be able to put on your calendar that we're going to be at is at MWC. That's M WC. And it is September 28, through the 30th. And if you have any, if you're gonna go there, and you're gonna see me, let's coordinate and let's schedule a time for us to have a conversation on site. It's a lot of fun. The other one that we're going to be at is IMTS at a September 12, through the 17th. Again, if you're going to be there, look up Industrial Talk, let's get you on the calendar, and let's get a conversation rolling. The next one that I want to make sure that you have out there, this is pretty cool. This one is the 13th American manufacturing strategy Summit. It is also October 11 through the 12th. And it is in Houston, Texas. Look at it go out to it, and you're gonna have all the information out on Industrial Talks, all the links are out there. But consider because we got to be about the collaboration, we've got to be about that education, bringing it all together. These are great venues to be able to do it. And finally, we're gonna do it again. We're going to be at IoT solutions World Congress, Barcelona is the town it is I'm telling you had a great time this last go around. And in fact, I was going to have a conversation with and Duncan who is going to be on this particular interview. And I had some technical issues but the IoT solutions World Congress, Barcelona January 31 through February 2. If you find yourself there, you got to look me up because we have such a fabulous time. And uh, speaking of that, if you have a desire to be on the podcast, or be a part of this ecosystem, just go out to Industrial Talk.com Find out more easy peasy. You'll talk to me and Industrial Talk is a platform that is truly dedicated to the education within the industrial area. The collaboration bringing professionals together who have answers and who are looking for answers. And of course innovation because that's what we're all talking about. All right on to the conversation. And Duncan, once again, I was going to speak with her at the IoT solutions World Congress this past year. And unfortunately, I had technical question, but our difficulties, but she's been very good. And one of the things that I find so amazing, so interesting, is digital transformation within the utility, market space, the energy and how that has happened distributive energy, what are we doing, being an old utility guy, I sort of look at it a certain way, these companies, and Duncan and team at the Department of Energy, they look at it, and they're working with other companies that are trying to help transition into this, whatever this future looks like. It's bright, but it's got a lot of unique challenges that smart people are really focused in on. So this is a great conversation. So this is a note and, and paper note up. Conversation. Alright, let's get cracking. And welcome to Industrial Talk. Thank you very much for finding time in your busy schedule. Because listeners, I had a technical issues when we were at IoT solutions World Congress, it was embarrassing. But Anne was so gracious and made me feel okay about it. And thank you, man.</p>
<p>06:26</p>
<p>Thanks, Scott, it's great to finally get a chance to talk.</p>
<p>06:29</p>
<p>Yeah, I'm pretty. I'm pretty geeked out about this whole conversation around industrial IoT, and then some and digitization and digital transformation and everything in between. It's an exciting time, specifically within industry. It's exciting, and a little nerve wracking, because I don't know, I need people to help me understand the journey. But that's where you come in, and all that good stuff. Before we get into the conversation, I think we need to level set a little bit about who and is for the listeners. So give us a little background. And</p>
<p>07:02</p>
<p>so Scott, thanks for having me again. So I am the Chief Information Officer, that part of energy, previously was the Chief Information Officer for EPA, during the Obama administration, left with Santa Clara County was CIO there, and went to Dell, and then was invited to by the transition team to work really hard for free for a while. And after that, I went back to administration, because I was actually having a lot of fun, working really hard for free. So I decided to come back and get paid a little bit to do the work. Well, I</p>
<p>07:39</p>
<p>liked that. And I guarantee that she's got her fingers on the pulse of technology and innovation that has taken place, specifically around energy, which is really important. And I don't think and this is my point of view, I think me as a consumer of power energy. I take it for granted that I flip on my light switch. And there it is, man. And I'm pretty. I'm pretty binary. It doesn't work. It works. And and that's sort of it, but we're venturing into an interesting world, I still think we're at the tip of the iceberg. You are speaking at the industrial Internet, no IoT solutions. To many of those buzzwords rolling around IoT solutions, World Congress, Barcelona, that's where we met. And you were a keynote speaker. What was that topic?</p>
<p>08:29</p>
<p>So Scott, I'm gonna read the topic because it's a little because it's lengthy. So the topic was leveraging innovative technologies that doe to drive energy transition, security, and research goals.</p>
<p>08:42</p>
<p>So why what? What were the salient points of that conversation? Because you pop up I, I know that when I have conversations, it's all great digital transformation is great. from an energy perspective, it's completely different than manufacturing. And, and one of the points of course, she brought up security, cyber, all of that stuff. Why was that topic important for DOD?</p>
<p>09:08</p>
<p>Yeah, so So let me give you a little background, do we I told you who I am, we say DoD is because a lot of people don't realize it. So DOE has a bunch of missions, but I'm going to sort of tell you the three major areas I would describe them up number one is nuclear Non Proliferation and security. So we do everything in the nuclear space from you know, the all the the international work to the cleanup of the Manhattan Project to making the actual propulsion for nuclear submarines and managing our weapons stockpile. So we do all that. Secondly,</p>
<p>09:51</p>
<p>that's number one. My ears bleeding and my nose is bleeding to Holy cow. Okay, go to number two better not just pointless.</p>
<p>10:01</p>
<p>Number two is I hope this doesn't disappoint. This is the one that you think of probably a lot is the grid and power. So we we sell bulk power that is generated by other parts of the government to take the companies that then sell you power. So we, you know, we manage a lot of the hydroelectric dams on the west coast, but also power over most of the country, a lot of that power actually goes through and is sold by DOD into the bulk power market. And we also manage the grid, we ensure that most of the grid in the country, the part that's interconnected, most of that is under our authority to make sure it's actually up and running. So that's number two, kind of an important thing.</p>
<p>10:45</p>
<p>Holy moly.</p>
<p>10:47</p>
<p>And then number three is that DOD is basically the engine for innovation in this country. From a technology standpoint, we run 70 national labs that do everything from classified research, supporting our nuclear energy program, to open science working with scientists around the world. So we work on big problems, you know, like a Stanford Linear Accelerator is part of DOD, the NIF, which if you heard about the project at Lawrence Livermore, that just managed to create a small fusion reaction, right? That was a DOD lab. So we do all that stuff. We do work in 5g, we do work in, in cyber defense, pretty much if there's an area of technology that people are working on, it's probably happening at DOD, and a lot of the research that's done for other parts of the government, like you hear DoD doing research, a lot of times they're doing the DoD labs. So we run the vast majority of the science research, basic science and engineering research that happens in this country.</p>
<p>11:49</p>
<p>Quite speechless, which is really unusual for me, because that is an absolutely spectacular summary of DOE that I did not know. And I guarantee, you know, clearly, all I was listening, number two, great and power, both power and all that stuff. So do we, outside of hydro owns other assets, generation assets that they will and or how does that work?</p>
<p>12:20</p>
<p>So most of this generation, generation assets are run by somebody else in the in the, in the government, and then we sell the power. So, but there are some of them, where we actually own the assets, but but it's primarily hydroelectric. But there's also other types of energy being generated, you know, throughout the network that we then turn around and sell for, for the government.</p>
<p>12:42</p>
<p>I'm not going to venture into number one, because I'd be woefully woefully inadequate. And I would be asking stupid questions, I will venture into number two and number three, when we start talking about innovation, when we start talking about digital transformation, and of course, many of the conferences that we go to, that's really it, how do we leverage innovation, technology, this digital world that we're venturing into to optimize our manufacturing process, our grid, which, quite frankly, and I don't know, I'm sort of old school when it comes to grid, where we got power transmission substations, and it's pretty linear. And here we are talking about, you know, distributed energy distributed side of the meter. And for me, it's like, okay, well, that's a, it's gonna happen, but I don't know, how do you work in concert with a private industry to say, okay, hey, we need, it's got to be collaborative, you can't just be doing this in a vacuum.</p>
<p>13:51</p>
<p>Right? So one of these jobs is private sector energy security. So I actually, and it's a broken up role. So my role I'm responsible for energy sector security, for the stuff that doe owns, that the government owns. There's my avid counterpart, who's responsible for security for private sector power. So they work with the private sector to ensure that they have secured their, their their assets and that they are able to securely generate power as well. So, you know, in terms of, but But certainly, we all work together in terms of trying to find the best technologies and solutions and ensure data and make the grid more effective and more secure. But it's still we together works with our stuff, and the private sector to ensure that we have a seamless power grid and its power. So we measure electricity, we also are the sector, sector, specific agency for gas as well. So we run Another thing we do is we run the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, as well responsible for, you know, oil and gas, from a security standpoint and from supporting the sector. And then you know, there are other sectors, EPA is, for example, is responsible for water. But obviously, you know, being responsible for electricity, oil and gas is a pretty substantial amount of responsibility for doe.</p>
<p>15:23</p>
<p>See, I don't know how Yeah, this is like grabbing a tiger by the tail, because there's so much change that's taking place, I would imagine. I would even say just, let's say 10 years ago, completely different than it is today. And the way you approach that sort of that network has changed dramatically. And how does how does the deal we outside of the labs and all of the other stuff? Just manage that? How do you how do you prioritize? I would imagine critical infrastructure, you better secure it, we don't want that. We don't want things happen in there. Okay, I got that. Then how do you sort of, I mean, there's so much going on. I don't know how you do that. Just there it is.</p>
<p>16:07</p>
<p>Well, yeah. And I think Scott's The thing is that, so we have four power administration's that each are responsible for section of the country. And they're responsible for ensuring that security and resilience. And you know, we've really upped our focus on OT, right. So that's why we're having this conversation. Operational technologies have been an afterthought in security for a long time. You know, we have giant transformers, we have other things that the labs that are big and complicated, but just in the power grid is huge transformers and other assets, we have to, we have to worry about not only keeping those up, and operational and secure, we have to worry about things like timing of the grid, right? So if you don't have good timing, the grid won't work. So we use GPS timing, which has some challenges. And one of my jobs actually, at DOD is I'm the senior official for Spectrum Management for DOD, because we coordinate spectrum management across the federal government, and we'll look at who uses radio spectrum. Right and and why our interference exists. And one of my jobs is to make sure that we control spectrum so that the grid is not interfered with by other users. Right. So that's another piece another third, or fourth, I don't know how many more</p>
<p>17:35</p>
<p>I don't either. For me, we got to understand the gymnastics that are going through my head, I can't keep I got asked a question there, write it down</p>
<p>17:45</p>
<p>a piece that other pieces that we have to manage, as you you alluded to this, right, we now have a two way group, we have distributed generation and storage. So a grid used to how are used to go one way. Now power goes two ways in that grid, and you'd have to manage that. And you also have to manage all of these potential entry points for cyber actors, right? instead of there being one big point. Now, you know, I have my house in California has solar, it has batteries, right? So it's got, you know, my, my batteries and my solar are connected to Wi Fi to into my, into the house, and then to the power company, right. So there's opportunities there for bad actors. But also, the grid has to be able to take back the energy I generate, right when I generate it, and it has to be able to manage the situation where the grid goes down, and I'm still generating power and make sure I'm not feeding energy back into a grid, and potentially hurting somebody who's trying to fix a power line. Um, you know, there's also the issue of, of smart meters, right? Those are wireless, you got to be able to protect those smart meters to ensure that no one can get in the grid that way. So the complexity is just through the roof.</p>
<p>18:59</p>
<p>It's through the roof, that that's every time I have this conversation. And it's the same thing I walk away with, oh my gosh, I don't know where to go. I don't know what steps Oh, I I see a problem there. And you know what's interesting? I used to be an old crotchety, journeyman transmission lineman. So when you start talking about power outages, and we even we even had issues where people would zip the, the power through. And as the Transformers The transformer goes one way, it will step it up. And it's people don't realize that, but And you brought up another interesting point. Is that timing. It is its timing, this, this grid is on time, you can't just be out and sinker on a timeframe. I don't know from a system operators perspective. It's, it's only doable by digitization. There's no way because the old school way was like I've got these generations In assets, I got this demand, I'm watching it. And I'm meet meeting demand and supply. And I'm doing it physically. And now there's no way there's no way. Yeah, you get upside down and flip around. It's like, so why is this digital transformation, the impact energy, your innovation and what you guys are focused on? Why is it important?</p>
<p>20:22</p>
<p>Well, you hit on it right. So the piece around the grid, it's important because we want to make sure that we can provide reliable power. So it means that from a digital transformation standpoint, we have to change the way we're operating the grid, to ensure we can keep up with the complexity. You know, we're now looking at, can we actually do our IoT, our OT, our operational technology stuff in the cloud, right? Can we do that work for the power grid in the cloud safely and securely, and have more resilience in that way. So, you know, we've got to find ways to make it easier to operate the grid. Because as it gets more complex to your point, we the individuals who may who used to look at computer screens, or even manual dials, you know, and, and make adjustments aren't going to be able to keep up with the complexity, right? If I've got millions of endpoints coming into, you know, if I'm selling Southern California, Edison, millions and millions of endpoints out there, I've got smart meters, I've got rooftop generation, I've got batteries, I've got all my enterprise assets, which now include storage assets, and generation assets of all different types, and I gotta balance the grid, there's no way I can do that manually. So you've got to digitize that. And you've got to simplify it. And you're gonna be using a, you know, you're gonna be using AI and machine learning to make those adjustments because you simple human being can no longer do it.</p>
<p>21:54</p>
<p>The the, you brought up an interesting component of, Can we can we place this this, this complexity in the cloud? And I agree with you, 100%? Are there any concerns with this digital transformation and latency? Because that's another conversation that people are having to say, I get it in the cloud, but even that little, whatever latency between that and versus, versus the timing on the grid, and keep it going? How do how do we address that?</p>
<p>22:23</p>
<p>Well, I you know, that's an interesting question, right about latency. So you have to figure out what your tolerance is for latency. And some things will be able to go in the cloud, if they're sufficiently real time, and you can't get the, you know, something close enough something with fast enough connection. But you know, the latency doesn't become an issue, you know, for hundreds, if not 1000s of miles before it really becomes a substantial issue. Yeah, even for timing I had, I had a job once where we had two data centers that were half a mile apart, and folks were trying to tell me that they couldn't possibly have their stuff in the data center half a mile away from their office, because there was too much latency. And I was like, You do no data moves at the speed of light. Right. So let's talk about how much latency we got in this half mile. Let me see if I can do that math. But, um, you know, so so it does, it certainly does become an issue, particularly with large amounts of data. But, you know, we'll try and control systems. You know, you can certainly tolerate some distance before you're gonna have a problem. And remember, we also have to figure out how to manage that over long distances. So we have to deal with the distance anyway. So yeah, that's an issue</p>
<p>23:35</p>
<p>either way, because you've got a dispersed asset base in every utility, every service territory, it's, it's not confined by four walls. It's, it's out there, man. And it's going for miles and miles and miles. So it's, it's stunning. So when we start talking about renewables, net 01 of the challenges that I see one of the challenge is, and I get it, there's a lot more EVs out there, right? There just are. It's, it's, it's, it's a scientific factor out there. And they're plugging into the grid. And they're plugging in at the grid. Pretty fast. And yet, grid maintenance grid improvements. That's not a that's not a fast thing. And so I see a disconnect between the speed at which these innovative solutions are attaching themselves to the grid and our ability to be able to say, oh, yeah, there's that and how do we address that? What what are some of the solutions around that?</p>
<p>24:49</p>
<p>Yeah, so that is an interesting problem. I mean, I certainly want to see Evie adoption move faster. That's one of our goals. The department is Evie adoption, and I'm working with DOD to improve the Evie charging infrastructure in this country. You know, I personally I was I was laughing I got home from, I had some house guests who came last night before I got home from my trip. And I, you know, here's the IoT, I opened the garage for them from my phone while I was sitting on an airplane and a gate, right? And they grabbed me, right, because I'd left them keys in the garage and they walked in. So yep, we're in we must be in the right garage. I see a Tesla.</p>
<p>25:25</p>
<p>Yeah, that's cool.</p>
<p>25:27</p>
<p>So you know, I mean, my Tesla sits in my garage and charges at 20 miles an hour, right? Not very fast. And, and, you know, in California, I was charging it off of my own generated power. Here, I'm not because I haven't had a chance to get some panels on this house. But you know, part of it is, the more that we can add that distributed generation capacity to match those vehicles. Right, the more that they become less of a burden on the system. And most of them do charge. At that rate. Most of them most people have a level two charger in their house, if they've got an Eevee. And they're charging at 20 miles an hour, then you got the fast chargers out there. Right. And I think that, you know, the the fast chargers are more of a challenge, although I know that Tesla, some of the other providers are starting to add solar, to their charging stations. So they're adding some generation capacity at that charging station as well. Now there, they probably aren't matching, and I don't know this perfect, I guess it'd be we're not matching their demand and supply, but they're at least adding to the supply. So I think, you know, the reality is, is, to me, distributed generations can solve a lot of these problems, the more we can put rooftop solar, local wind, wherever that is to distribute the demands on the grid, distribute this plan on the grid to match the demands on the grid, that's going to help. But otherwise, it's going to be a transition, right? It's gonna be, it's gonna be a transition to get more power on the grid at the right times for the right devices. And the other key is to get these devices mostly charging these cars, mostly charging an off hours, right, you can program the car to charge in the middle of the night. So if you're charging your garage, you're going to choose to charge at midnight anyway, because you're gonna pay less for power. And so that we can manage the demand on the grid, there's also going to be a future where you're going to be able to at peak time be able to pull, pull charge back out of those vehicles, and bring it back into the grid. So the goal was supposed vehicles to become part of the grid infrastructure as well.</p>
<p>27:30</p>
<p>To me is like, Okay, I said, and be able to manage that, like, here's the point. Here's the point, here's, here are 10,000 in this area, that year, as a system operator, I'm going alright, let's start pulling it up. They're all plugged in. Oh, that one's not plugged in. And I see it. I just,</p>
<p>27:49</p>
<p>well, yeah, good operator has a grid operator has just be able to send a command that says, Okay, I want to pull charge from cars and have and have the systems go, okay, my car is not going to contribute, right? Because you can't possibly possibly manage each individual device.</p>
<p>28:05</p>
<p>And I want everybody to be successful. I just think that it's it's imperative, it's going to happen if you're in manufacturing, whether you like it or not. And you're saying, I don't want to be a part of this digital transformation? Well, your competition is, and you need to consider it and dip your toes in it, because there are a lot of good people out there willing to help you. And that goes with the utility. Now, being an old utility guy. I know you have service territories, all across the country and around the world. But we're talking here. And so every utility has a different journey, right? Every small, mid large, you know, invested or whatever it might be. That's a whole nother level of complexity, because I might not be there. I haven't. I'm over here, and I'm just trying to do this. I just think that it's a heck of a job you have and</p>
<p>29:00</p>
<p>it's a lot of fun. We get to cool stuff. For sure.</p>
<p>29:02</p>
<p>Yeah, you get to cool, do cool stuff. We're gonna have to wrap it up. That's our time. How do people get a hold of you? They're saying, Gosh, can't Can I a utility just contacted doe? Can I just like, hey, I need help.</p>
<p>29:16</p>
<p>Well, most of the utilities already know how to get ahold of us. They work with different parts the organization but they are more than welcome to my doe account on Twitter, send us a note to send an email over to Dewey. We'll be happy to connect them with resources they don't have but we try very hard to be connected to those folks in the energy sector. So</p>
<p>29:38</p>
<p>that's, that's your role. You're you're connecting you better be connected. Well, anyway, you were absolutely spectacular. Thank you for saying yes, man.</p>
<p>29:47</p>
<p>This was a lot of fun. Thanks, guys. Great. I</p>
<p>29:49</p>
<p>can definitely could geek out much longer but you know, I've got to think about the summit. You know, maybe I There's three of us that get really geek out on it up and so now it's down to two All right listeners, we're not we're gonna have all the contact information for an out on Industrial Talk.com. Thank you very much for joining in. Thank you, Scott. All right, listeners, we're gonna wrap it up on the other side. So stay tuned, we will be right back. You're listening to the Industrial Talk Podcast Network. All right, thank you very much for joining Industrial Talk live it it was a great pleasure. Absolutely. Thank you, too, and Duncan as well, I hope you enjoyed that conversation, reach out to her. All her contact information will be out at Industrial Talk.com. So fear not reach out, get the information that you need. To help you be successful going forward. A lot of changes are happening, being led by and in team, D O E, as well as many other companies, you need to be a part of that. So do not fear them, you need to reach out. All right, again, we're gonna have all the places that we're going to be on site. Reach out to me, schedule your time. If you're going to be at these conferences. It'd be great to meet you. Easy peasy, Scott. Just want to talk to you. Make it happen because it is a lot of fun and talk about what you are doing there at the event. Important. All right. Be bold, be brave, daring greatly. We're gonna have another great conversation shortly. So stay tuned and be a part of the ecosystem.</p>
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		<title>Sabine Erlinghagen: CEO Grid Software with Siemens</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>On this week's Industrial Talk we're onsite at DistribuTech 22 and talking to Sabine Erlinghagen, CEO Grid Software with Siemens  about "Grid Modernization and Powerful Solutions ".  Get the answers to your "Utility Grid" questions along with Sabine's unique insight on the “How” on this Industrial Talk interview!</p>
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<p><strong>SUMMARY KEYWORDS</strong></p>
<p>grid operators, conversation, sabine, industrial, utility, software, people, grid, industry, consumers, absolutely, world, point, charging, solution, ev, logistics, talk, challenges, collaborate</p>
<p>00:04</p>
<p>Welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott Mackenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hard hat, grab your work boots, and let's get Hey, once</p>
<p>00:22</p>
<p>again, welcome to industrial talk, thank you very much for joining the number one industrial related podcast in the universe that celebrates you and I'm pointing right at you, you industry hero from around the world, you are bold, you are brave, you're daring greatly. You collaborate, you solve problems, you innovate. I think I've pretty much named them all off, and you're making my life and the lives of many from around the world a better place. Thank you very much. All right. Sabine, is in the hot seat, the company is seated. She is the CEO of grid solutions there. And I just have to give you a heads up. We were on site at distributech. And so this is the interview that happened there. Let's get back. Yeah, see this, this platform? I'm telling ya. It's an ever expanding industrial ecosystem of problem solvers and leaders? How about that, put that in your bank? All right. Again, I want to make sure that you understand this is a series. And this is a series that we were very fortunate to be on site at distributech. And it was a great, great event. And if you're in the utility space, or energy space, or digital transformation space, this is a this is an event that you need to put on your calendar for next year. There's a lot to see a lot of collaboration, a lot of people are just, you know, they're, it's, it's a really exciting time. If you're in the utility world, boo. There's a lot of big thinking going on there. Before we get into that interview, we are brought to you industrial Talk is brought to you by capital logistics, and IoT world now capital logistics i i love the conversation that is around supply chain. And you know, as well as I do, that you need a trusted resource company, that person that can help you with your logistics challenges. If it's big, no big deal. If it's not no big deal, Cap logistics, have you covered, go to cap logistics.com Find out more you will not be disappointed in. And I've had the great honor of working with IoT world. And they never disappoint you go on to IoT dash world.com. And they put together some great content. Because we're all about learning. We're all about growing, we're all about educating. And as I'm telling you right now, the way the industry is working or going it is fast, and you need to keep current. And you need to listen to people like like Sabine, who have just the fingers on the pulse of what's taking place, go out to IoT Dash World. Find out more again, great company, great people, all right, on site. This is this was a great extravaganza. And so my background is in utilities. I was a transmission lineman, many of you know that I was, I dealt with a lot of renewables anyway. I was a kid in a candy store. And then when somebody likes a beam comes up, and I get the opportunity to be able to talk to her about the challenges that are happening within the grid like we take it for granted as consumers, we just sort of take it for granted that when I come into a room, I flip a lightbulb that's on and everything's fine. I don't think beyond that. Well, I do just because I was in the utility industry. However, we have some really unique opportunities and challenges that companies like Siemens, and Sabine and her team are really addressing, and really trying to find that solution. That really, in essence, we don't know anything about it, right? We're just consumers. But it's an exciting time. Now you're gonna hear some noise. It's going to be a little noisy back there because we're right on site on the floor, and just having a great conversation about what's happening with Siemens. So enjoy the conversation because I certainly did. I used to be it's been great to be able to run you down. Lucien, who's standing right in front of me. He's the one that has been burning all the calories. Try to find you. Not me.</p>
<p>04:31</p>
<p>It's been busy times and a lot of great conversations here anti tech. So yeah,</p>
<p>04:35</p>
<p>so you had a good conference. Conference? Absolutely. This is your first time here.</p>
<p>04:41</p>
<p>It is. It is I just counted. i It's my 10th Inlet, which is the European equivalent. It's my first tech. Can you believe that? No.</p>
<p>04:49</p>
<p>Well, this is my first time to you know, my background in utilities. It's like a kid in a candy store here because there was a company out there that had a I pulled top switcher and I said, Are you kidding me? Let me go look at it. And I'm touching it. And I'm going, Wow, that's fantastic. stupid stuff. Amazing. All right, so you're here, Siemens is here, got a great presents got a great solution. Talk to us a little bit about that product launch that you mentioned ever. So briefly on May 5, talk to us.</p>
<p>05:20</p>
<p>Absolutely. And it's actually not only a product launch, we reveal our strategy and an entire suite of products. We call that the grid software suite. And that goes from planning to operations and maintenance of grids. And the Tweak to it really is that we think it from A to Z. So plan to operate, maintain.</p>
<p>05:45</p>
<p>What was the sort of that? You know, genesis of that conversation? Because you're one of the challenges that I see here is, I need if I was if I was a utility, if I was just whatever, I'm looking for a trusted resource, a person, something that I know that I need to do this, I need to venture into this new, Brave New World, but I need somebody to be able to sort of bring us through, was that part of the thinking behind it and saying, hey, somebody needs to be getting it. We need we need it all the way through?</p>
<p>06:19</p>
<p>Absolutely, I think what we realized is that, it is a very, very tough challenges that utilities and especially distribution and transmission companies are facing, because that transformation is nothing that anybody has ever seen before. So the that challenge, we feel that by and large, the industry is leaving our customers a little bit too much alone. So we said, we got to embrace the point of view of our customers.</p>
<p>06:51</p>
<p>I gotta interrupt, who's a customer in that conversation.</p>
<p>06:54</p>
<p>And the customer in that conversation? Is any grid operator?</p>
<p>06:57</p>
<p>Got it? Got it go continue. I was struggling. I'm a customer. But I'm not a grid operator.</p>
<p>07:02</p>
<p>Yeah, no. Thanks for asking. So for grid operators, I think we're as an industry not yet doing a good enough job of helping grid operators to maneuver through that transition, which is an exponential growth case of Drs. So facing that as exponential growth, I think the human brain can cope with exalted curves, right? I mean, we've seen that in COVID, you can just lose time, because if you lose time, it's already too late. Yes. So the same situation is the one that we're facing with what the grids need to cope with. And here we go. I mean, we are thinking silos, we're thinking point solutions. Here, you have a planning app, here you have an operations, and here you have that, and then we leave it to the grid operator to stitch that together. And that's really hard work. Because it's overlapping data is not flowing properly. It's hard to connect. And so that's, that's a problem we are solving for them.</p>
<p>08:08</p>
<p>You've touched on a number of points. And I think that I have to be honest, we have to talk about here on industrial talk, you know, modernization of the grid, but you're the first person that actually said, Hey, there's the customer, there's this human component, these are the, the grid operators, the the ISOs, whatever you might have. And they're the ones that have to sort of make it work because we consumer wants to flip on the light. There it is, it works. And we don't want to have the interruptions. And we're pretty binary when it comes to that, like good.</p>
<p>08:46</p>
<p>And we want to have an EV charging, we want to have a solar, we have one, battery storage, we want to have an energy community, we want to know how much we consume what we can contribute to climate, like mitigating climate change. Yeah. And</p>
<p>09:02</p>
<p>my ear bleeds when I have these conversation, because my background is sort of old school. And it was sort of that centralized generation. That's an easy model. And the utilities are very good at that. Because it's been doing it for 100 years, Siemens has been a part of that. It's just that's what it is. So I have generation of transmission. I have substations I have distribution, and so on and so forth. Now we're talking system operators, having to take solar panels, battery, EVs, and be a part of that whole mix, and then be able to do that. And that's a technology conversation to</p>
<p>09:39</p>
<p>mean Did you know it's 7x the growth of the quantity 20 37x that's exponential?</p>
<p>09:47</p>
<p>No. But that's, that's frightening to</p>
<p>09:50</p>
<p>it totally is and I mean, the transmission system operators already have a challenge because it takes that to distribution. I mean, connecting those DVRs and admitting them planning for it getting the flexibility, getting the inertia, right?</p>
<p>10:07</p>
<p>These are really sophisticated conversations. And if you have any appreciation for the love that we as consumers are, we take it for granted that our power is our power. We don't really mean if I'm a customer, I don't think about. I don't think about that. I'm very simplistic, but there is. No, you're absolutely right. It should be invisible. It should be just business as usual. The risk I see is that if we don't get this, right, if we don't, you know, partner with companies like Siemens, to make it right. If we do it wrong, the consumer sort of doesn't like that.</p>
<p>10:54</p>
<p>I mean, you will have to care, then. I mean, that's like going back to the middle age where you get get to know at which point in time you can switch something on. And I mean, middle aged, wasn't switching something on but</p>
<p>11:04</p>
<p>but if you were at that spot on the point, it is, but then we start talking about I look at it, there's a there's a there's a messaging component to it, right? Because there's a lot of incredible things that your company, people in your company others are doing that is just sort of like the unsung heroes. They're having these collaborative conversations. And it's, and they're discussing,</p>
<p>11:33</p>
<p>I would say it's the grid operators are the unsung heroes. I mean, it is really perfect. It's not us.</p>
<p>11:41</p>
<p>Well, I gotta admit, I can appreciate the pragmatic approach, because the grid operators are going to always say, hold it, I still gotta deliver power. And it's got to be reliable, and I can't just incur a bunch of costs. So it's got to be, you know, reasonable and cost. And it's got to be done safely. Right? I got to do that. Because if I don't do that, then I fail. So it's good. But are you finding that the necessity is to strive to collaborate with these, these grid operators and bring them in and say, We're going down that road?</p>
<p>12:18</p>
<p>Absolutely. And I mean, if you close the doors, I mean, grid operators will admit that they're actually not following through with connection requests of key hours. So this is slowing down the energy transition. And that the partnership is about helping to accelerate the energy transition, helping to make it easy helping to be fast and nimble to adapt, or oh, there's EVs coming up here, charging poets coming up here, more solar introduced here, or there's a kind of a big car park with a charging being built there. So God to be much more flexible than we had been in the past. And if you translate that to the technology world, then software has got to be the solution. Because software, yes, things. It does help you to operate grids closer to them limits mean, so far, we have physical limits, where you have this buffer of portion in</p>
<p>13:14</p>
<p>there. Yes, that's right. And overbuilt. Over built.</p>
<p>13:17</p>
<p>Yeah. Because you got to be reliable. Yeah. But I mean, there was somebody in a utility A while ago, who told me like, oh, oh, this is so we can kind of reduce that buffer and capacity. And then a colleague of yours said, like, look, we used to fly planes with four engines in the past. Now we fly them with tools. Right, right. We're still feeling safe. And that software, it's like, the instrumentation, the precision, the transparency about that we are still good enough to fly. And that's what we need to bring to power grids. It's the software that gives you the transparency of how close are you statically and dynamically to your limits? How much more can the power grid take and investing in software's? There's so much better return on the investment than just adding capacity and copper and bigger transport? That's right, right. It's so much faster. So getting the software right, for me is the key to facilitate and accelerating that energy transition integrates.</p>
<p>14:30</p>
<p>How do you have these conversations with the you know, the system operator over here and a system operator in this service territory over there? And each one has a different story. They're in a different place in this journey? I think there's a recognition that, yes, it's going to happen. I hear it. I understand. I talked to other colleagues, it's going to do it. How do we take it across the board like and have some sort of consistent messaging right there and saying, Okay, do this</p>
<p>14:59</p>
<p>and Think you're absolutely right, everybody starts from a different position. So not only the grid topology is different, the D ER or EB charging, status is different. But also the IT and OT topology of every one is totally different. So the art is to. That's what agility is about. Like when we talk about agility, it's about being able to make small steps, make them fast, and iterate. So it's, that's why our software suite is modular. Modularity enables you to go Agile, and to not replace, and total ADMS and derms. In one goal, if your project, please don't risk. And I mean, we've been doing that over the years. But the recipe is, how can I go live was one thing. Next thing,</p>
<p>15:56</p>
<p>I love the incremental approach, it allows the human side, like me, put my, my arms around it, achieve some sort of success, say, I got it. Okay, I'm learning, I'm walking. Now, let's, let's start to scale a little bit, let's talk, let's target this versus that right now. And be able to do it that</p>
<p>16:20</p>
<p>way. The whole I mean, a, it delivers value much faster, because you can do something very fast. So the second thing is, I mean, it's a human transformation, you keep emphasizing. So it's about people with habits of working with a system for so long, now need to change to work with new software. So you want to give those people the chance to get those new habits. So get them touch the software really fast. Get them kind of learned. Like it like we learned something on the smartphone, right? I mean, you you learn it intuitively, instead of five months of training after a five year project, and it's kind of Big Bang, see your it's not how transformations are being done.</p>
<p>17:08</p>
<p>See, you're touching on so many things. I believe that true adoption has to come with simplicity. If if you create friction in this, whatever this journey is, I'm not I'm just naturally going to not want to be a part of it. It's too hard. And you also spoke on that, that cultural, that utility, cultural mindset, that legacy thinking we've done it forever, this is how we've done it, we've perfected this.</p>
<p>17:34</p>
<p>And you know what? It's that's super interesting, because you see, kind of different types of people coming in now. And those conversations are super intriguing. Because I mean, a you have 80 people sitting next to what we would call Ott, right. So they come from different backgrounds. And what we find is, if we discuss our principles and software and how we build our software, how we deploy our software, it actually resonates with both. So it's not the conflict of I win, you win, or I push you out, you push me out. But it's something that serves both needs, and for good reasons. So it's the best of all worlds. Yeah. And it has the advantage of the reliable reliability of OT, but the flexibility of it, and the speed of it.</p>
<p>18:30</p>
<p>See, I think, you know, I point this out, the pandemic did a couple of things. One, we understand the bad stuff, got it bad, bad, bad, bad. But the other thing that I thought was pretty good about the pandemic is that it it quickly identified the necessity for us to collaborate, and to be willing to collaborate and to be insane. I don't have all the answers. I know I need to go down this road. But I don't have it. So I need to collaborate. And that's what you just pointed it out. OT it, that collaboration when when and and that realization that yeah, it just has to happen.</p>
<p>19:07</p>
<p>And then those, those conversations are real fun. I mean, like I can imagine when we bring everybody in the room is like sometimes in the beginning, there's a little bit of the reservation,</p>
<p>19:17</p>
<p>because it never happened before it never happened. And then when people are leaving</p>
<p>19:21</p>
<p>the room, it's like, wow, I mean, like, sometimes we get kind of that those teams afterwards calling their CEOs and said like, yes, this was like, they never experienced that it can actually not be against each other but with it each other and it really to like thinking things entirely new.</p>
<p>19:44</p>
<p>I think it's an exciting time. I really in a positive way. Yes, people are going to skin, their knees and bump their heads and all of that stuff and it's going to happen however, I still think that there's this momentum that's happening. then it is going to happen. And either you participate, either you'll part of the solution, or because of the velocity of this, you're going to be left behind and you don't want to be in that room. You don't we won't. You Oh, that's what you guys do. You do it all the time. I enjoyed this conversation. You know what it was well worth the wait. Thank you. Yes. How do people get a hold of you? Just got to? I mean, if they want to get some more information, where do they go?</p>
<p>20:30</p>
<p>Just ping me on LinkedIn.</p>
<p>20:32</p>
<p>I mean, that's the way to do it. This is</p>
<p>20:34</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="cfm-player-iframe" style="width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow:hidden; border: 1px solid #d6d6d6;"><iframe style="width: 100%; height: 170px;" frameborder="no" scrolling="no" seamless allow="autoplay" src="https://player.captivate.fm/8525029d-4b7a-48a1-bd4f-c2ef88ac5ca8"></iframe></div><p>In this week's <strong><em>Industrial Talk Podcast</em></strong> we're talking to <strong>Shamik Mehta </strong>with Hitachi Vantara about <b>&#8220;Bi-Directional Data Flow and the Positive Impact to the Utility Grid&#8221;</b>.  Get the answers to your &#8220;Grid Data Analytics&#8221; questions along with Shamik's unique insight on the “How” on this Industrial Talk interview!</p>
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<h2>SHAMIK MEHTA'S CONTACT INFORMATION:</h2>
<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shamikmehta/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/shamikmehta/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara's Company LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/hitachi-vantara/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/hitachi-vantara/</a></p>
<p><strong>Hitachi Vantara's Company Website: </strong><a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/home.html</a></p>
<h2>PODCAST VIDEO:</h2>
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<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/smart-transportation-energy-combine-electrify-our-future-shamik-mehta/">Smart Transportation and Smart Energy Combine to Electrify our Future | LinkedIn</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/iot-ai-edge-analytics-connected-automobiles-shamik-mehta/">IoT, AI and Edge Analytics in Connected Automobiles | LinkedIn</a></p>
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<a href="https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/resources.html#vid=5576234655001">https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/resources.html#vid=5576234655001</a></p>
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<h2>PODCAST TRANSCRIPT:</h2>
<p><strong>SUMMARY KEYWORDS</strong></p>
<p>utility, grid, hitachi, transformer, happening, problems, talk, people, electron, energy, home, mehta, car, companies, power, sun, electricity, solar, update, battery</p>
<p>00:04</p>
<p>Welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott MacKenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hard hat, grab your work boots, and let's go again, welcome to industrial talk of the place, this place of this platform that celebrates industry heroes such as yourself, you are bold, you are brave, you dare greatly you innovate, you change lives, you're changing the world, you're solving problems, why not celebrate you? That's how I geek out each and every day. Thank you very much for what you do. All right, in the hot seat. in the hot seat, we have a gentleman by the name of a Shamik Mehta. Now, if I go to his handy dandy stat card, he is the director of industry solutions, marketing with Hitachi Ventura, done a lot of work with a dodgy Vantara great people, great company, always dedicated to solving problems. They love it. Love it, let's, oh, we're going to be talking, we're going to be talking utilities. Now. You know, I'm always geeking out my background, utilities, climate towers, satin poles doing what I did with Southern California Edison, and enjoyed every moment. So I geek out on this stuff. So just, you know, buckle in, because we're gonna have a great time, let's get cracking with the conversation. Of course, like, I just love this stuff. There's a lot of great challenges out there, within the utility spaces, digital transformation, what do we do? How do we support the future going forward? How do we create a stable grid? How do we solve problems, so that we can, you know, be more renewable, whatever it might be, whatever that focus needs to be, we've got to have a really nimble type of grid to be able to handle all of these wonderful, wonderful ideas and thinking out there that are being brought to you by those Hitachi Vantara. And other companies that are pushing the envelope innovative, they're gonna solve the problem so that when you flip that light switch on, light comes on. You don't have to worry about flickering or doing anything. That's what they bring to the table before I get a correction on that. Couple of things. One, I've just came back from Denver, and if you've never been to Denver, great people. Yes. Good food, absolutely. Beautiful. Oh, baby, we we climbed a mountain. But they have some great companies out there with great people. And I was very fortunate, very honored, very</p>
<p>02:40</p>
<p>excited to be able to work with a company called cap logistics now, you know, as well as I do, you've got logistics, you've got the supply chain challenges, you've got sourcing issues, you've got all of that wrapped up into what do we do? How do we how do we solve some of the problems? cap logistics is a company that is right at the edge trying to figure this out, trying to and and they've got the street guide as credit to prove it, right. They've got the street cred. Cap logistics, a great company. So they opened some doors for me to be able to meet with some great leaders within the Denver Colorado area. And I want to just give a shout out to the water design build Council. So I was able to meet with them. And you know what? They're talking about? Yeah, water. They're talking about solving problems. They're talking about addressing the issues that we have today, right? Today, because well, between you and me, one we take the water for granted to ride. When we pull it out of the tap, we just know that it's, you know, going to be okay. Water design build council wants to keep that moving forward, working with some great, great engineering firms to make that happen. Talking about and solving problems that are impacting water today. The next one is the Colorado Business Roundtable. It is made up of professionals within the Colorado area, big time professionals. Again, looking at ways of being able to solve problems collaborating, innovation, you name it, educating it's happening there. The Executive Director, Debbie Brown is an incredible leader making it wonderful solutions available with this particular organization. Working closely with them. She's got a passion to definitely solve problems and and again, again, we collaborate right? We collaborate because we do not have all the answers and the Colorado business roundtable definitely has made that a point. The other one was a fun trip to whistling hair distillery this is this is a business that was developed by a gentleman by the name of Sandy Roth. His pedigree is Deloitte. He Has heaps with them forever. You go out to whistling hair, get the tour, see the passion. It's like mad scientists, all of the stuff incredible, incredible opportunity. And and of course, a decent product know a really good product beyond decent. They are passionate, it's fun seeing them talk about what they do. The one that I geeked out probably the most is with the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. So I met with George sparks. He is the the executive director there. And it's a museum, right? I love learning I love and what they're trying to do and what they're working on is to be able to pull in what our hat what's happening in the community and reflect that in the museum. What is important to people in the community? And how do we continue to educate? How do we continue to develop insights to, you know, for a better tomorrow. They just, I'm telling you, a guy that like me that that'll go to a museum, you're looking at a guy that just gets off all squishy and just loves that stuff. That's the Denver Museum of Nature and Science, you got to go out there, you got to just do it, go to Denver, because it's pretty cool. And then finally, I was able to meet with a young lady by the name of Michelle Barnes, head of HHS, talked a little bit about what's happening within the Denver, Colorado State as a whole. What are they doing? How are they doing it? She's She's caught a lot of passion. A lot of it's just pretty bright. So there's a lot of wonderful conversations that had taken place in Colorado, again, very appreciative to cap logistics for giving me the opportunity to meet with all of these wonderful, wonderful professionals in the Denver area. One last thing because we're always about this. Now two last things. One, the manufacturing technology show Cleveland, Ohio, been to Cleveland, wonderful community, this is November 9, through the 11th it is theirs, it's two you can be there in person is there's a virtual boom, you just got to be there because manufacturing is being impacted by digital transformation each and every day. must must no more. And then finally, industry, industrial talk to Dotto is getting we're getting closer every every day, this is going to be your single location to all things industry. Go there, find out more paying on into whoever you want to talk to, it's all going to be available. My role, industrial talks role, and the team industrial talks role is to make it easy for you to get the information you need to be successful. Because we want you to survive. We want you to rebuild and we want you to prosper because you are that important because you're changing the world. Whew</p>
<p>08:08</p>
<p>that was a hell of an intro big time. All right, let's get back to this conversation that we're having with in geeky utility stuff. Show me I really had a great time talking to you you're going to enjoy this conversation because it's it's nice to see come a companies like Hitachi Ventura really put toward the effort to try to solve problems and there are other companies out there and and it is incumbent upon us to be able to highlight and be able to celebrate these individuals should make does not and I mean does not disappoint. His last name is MEH ta his stat card is out there. Mehta is the way you say that last night and last name and reach out to him. Yeah. MIT to so you know, he's quite a quite a smart guy. Alright, enjoy the conversation, Shamik Welcome to the industrial talk podcast, I am looking forward to our conversation. We should make it myself and others. When I can't say others, you'll be listening to it. We're gonna be talking about bi-directional data flow. This is a utility centric. This is a power centric. This is a grid centric type of conversation. And I want to make sure that everybody out there, the listeners out there recognize that this is a real important topic has real ramifications. And I think that there are real solutions. And that's what Shamik and Hitachi Vantara bring to the table. All right, you make. How about that?</p>
<p>09:39</p>
<p>Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me here. This is exciting. Excellent. I love it. It's</p>
<p>09:43</p>
<p>a little background on who you are.</p>
<p>09:45</p>
<p>Absolutely. So yeah, I'm Shamik Mehta. I am a director of industry solutions marketing at Hitachi Ventura. I'm based here in sunny California in the Bay Area. Our headquarters are in Santa Clara for Hitachi Ventura. That's where we are But as always, as you can tell from behind me. And staying busy with a lot of activities in data management and understanding how utilities that oil and gas and energy industries are evolving, how we're a grid is getting modern and more and more communicative with each other. How electrification is evolving everywhere? And how can technologies and software help ease that problem? My background is in renewable energy. I worked for six years in a company called sun Edison, which was a very large IPP, or independent power producer. At one point it was</p>
<p>10:36</p>
<p>sun Edison, what Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what do they do? What what type of assets do they have?</p>
<p>10:42</p>
<p>So son Edison is a solar and wind IPP was a solar and wind independent power producer. So they were they invented the power purchase agreement. If you know what that is,</p>
<p>10:52</p>
<p>yes, that's where negotiate ISO fours, ISO, ISO ones, firm contracts as available contracts. I know a little bit about them.</p>
<p>11:01</p>
<p>Awesome, then you're on the same page, but suddenly decided that and it was a very large ship up to a three gigawatt pipeline of solar and wind and energy storage projects around the world, where I was the director of operations for our battery based energy storage products, added product management, Product Marketing for everything from heterogeneous transistor cells, a JT cells that go into the modules or panels as they're called to the micro inverters on the back of the panels to single axis trackers that hold the machines that points the panels of the sun and track it around for 20% extra gain. And then energy storage systems with lithium ion batteries and the controller and inverters and everything all built into argument and, you know, flattened out before the shoulders when the sun starts to dip with energy storage, or when wind starts to die down. So the fascinating run losers, I understand we'll get into it. Don't</p>
<p>11:53</p>
<p>get me wrong, we'll get into it. However, this is an interesting coverage. Were you familiar with solar one down and Daggett? Yes. That was those are interesting. That's an interesting technology, because to your point, they're tracking the sun, shining it up on a collector and I think at that particular time, the last iteration was salt, melting salt, so that they can generate steam at night.</p>
<p>12:17</p>
<p>Yes, CSP, concentrated solar power. And yeah, parabolic mirrors that we're used to I mean, if you apply where Las Vegas you can see those giant fields where they're aggregating right there, all those all the panels are all the mirrors are reflecting and collecting into a single collector. And that is used to get so hot that it it melts the molten salt and other gases, and it creates energy storage out of it. pretty fascinating. and bright. That's very, very bright. You can see a train to break away. He did. Yes, you can. Again, I</p>
<p>12:48</p>
<p>got it. I gotta go around. So now it's when they were, I remember as a younger man, watching them get into the focus. So they're taking those mirrors and they're interesting. I'm not on the the collector, but above it. Right? Yeah, it would just be this white spot</p>
<p>13:05</p>
<p>in the house. Yes. Amazing. But you know, the great thing is we're barely tapped into the power of the sun. Did you know that every minute, the earth gets enough photon energy from the sun to power our entire world's energy needs for an entire year. In one minute, one minute, in one minute, we get enough energy from the photon. From all the photons that hit us, from the sun to power our entire world's energy needs for one year.</p>
<p>13:39</p>
<p>I've never heard that. That's amazing.</p>
<p>13:41</p>
<p>Think about that. Instead, we exactly. I was at a conference where Elon Musk was talking and he said that if you were to take 1/8 of the state of Nevada and turn it into solar panels you can power to walk away Yeah, I</p>
<p>13:57</p>
<p>don't heard that one either. That's that's Yeah, I mean to It's incredible how much the sun has a conversation to talk about later because I'm telling you right now that that's an interesting and staggering stack. I'm gonna I'm just I'm just telling you that that's there's plenty of room out there in Vegas, too. They could probably do it this time. All right. Let's talk a little bit about when I when I was a utility lineman when I was in utilities. The model the the the actual power model, power Gen grid utility model is pretty basic, pretty straightforward. Big thermal generating assets, transmission lines, substations and so on. As as time has gone on. We use to negotiate power purchase agreements, and we used to bring online assets that were considered alternative. Now were they efficient, somewhere somewhere, not it just is what it is. But we had to begin to address and and recognize that these generations shorts are on the grid. And we always had trouble with winnt var sucking, stable grid challenges all the stuff in the San Gorgonio Pass Tehachapi. And we had to figure something out. Fast forward to today, where you stand where, where we stand, and where we talk about digital transformation, the journey and how it's impacting the utility. What is the utility the grid, the people dealing with today? With that reality? And how are we going to solve that problem, it's going to happen it is happening, what do we do?</p>
<p>15:48</p>
<p>It is happening, we call that decentralization and diversification. And what that means is you like you rightly said, energy used to be or still is generated in a nuclear power plant, or at a hydro dam, or at a large facility somewhere, usually very far away from a city, or where the people who need that electricity to reside. And then that electricity is transmitted over, you know, high tension cables, alongside highways that you see everywhere, that 122,000 140,000 volts, and transferred 1000s or 10s, of 1000s of miles to and then distributed and broken down into smaller and smaller steps with transformers and other HVDC equipment, high voltage DC equipment, and then eventually they will come to your home at 120 volt range, right. But it's a long journey that those that electron took from a nuclear plant or a dam somewhere in the Sierras. In California, for example, to where I live here in Silicon Valley. That's a traditional model of electricity generation, transmission distribution, and consumption by the end user being right, that's what they call the energy value chain. Today, it's becoming less and less disrupted, disrupted, because what's happening is, people are realizing that you can generate energy cleanly closer to where it's going to be consumed. So your solar rooftops, or a parking lot, or a college or a school, or a large Home Depot type of a box store where the roots are viable, you can put a lot of solar panels and generate electricity, where it's going to be consumed. So that traditional model of generating electricity from far and transmitting and distributing it down to the retail level has changed significantly and is undergoing even faster change as we speak.</p>
<p>17:36</p>
<p>So what's interesting, where you we we've sort of painted the historical picture is that the value chain was wonder it's almost like just one direction, like, big, cut it in half, cut it down all the way down to the consumer level where we can just, you know, run that blender, and that's, I can follow that. And, and things on the other side of the transformer. It wasn't going the other way. Now, when we start talking about now, we're, we're going back, I have a solar planner, I can I can pump it back into the grid.</p>
<p>18:10</p>
<p>Yes, that's where the positive things right? Right. So and you do this, for the most part, especially in the USA have done a very good job of honoring that power, the distributed power that's been generated, not everywhere, but for the most part, it works quite well. So for here in California, for example, we will, our utilities will allow us to give rebates to customers whose meters run backwards. And that's literally what happens. In the middle of the day, solar panels on my house may generate five to seven kilowatts of energy. But if nobody's home, the home is barely consuming about a kilowatt, or maybe three kilowatts, depending upon air conditioning, and you know, refrigeration needs, but there's no lighting, there's no fans, there's nothing else really happening. There's no electric charging of cars, because the cars have gone to work for the owners. So when that happens, the excess energy can be pumped back into the grid, and the meter literally reverses. You remember the old style meters, which had a little disk that spun on it, right. And as the more electricity you use, the faster returns and it's your measured, your bill is measured based upon those revolutions, it took a while literally the mirrors would slow down to the point that they turned reverse and the disk spins backwards because now your home is generating electricity and giving it back to the grid. And when that happens, utilities often will give you credit for that doesn't happen everywhere. But in the more progressive states, they will pay you back for that money, which is fantastic because now you have electricity flowing in both directions. And with smart meters, electronic meters, which has got instrumentation in it. A combination of computers, a combination of wireless internet connectivity, and power or battery power is enough to power that information about how much energy is being used and how much of energy is being pushed back into the grid. And all of that is available now. In real time,</p>
<p>20:02</p>
<p>but it has to be done in real time. I mean, if I'm asked to make if I, if if I'm a utility, and I'm trying to, you know, I'm pretty simple in in matching my supply and my demand, I've got to have the right amount of, you know, electrons meeting the right amount of demand and being able to balance that anymore and he lasts. But that model that you just spoke of requires that quick insight,</p>
<p>20:28</p>
<p>right? Yes, it has to, you need to know right away, because what happens when suddenly the somebody comes home and plugs in their Eb charger, because the AV came home from work a little bit early, all of a sudden that that demand and the amount of current that's going back into the grid needs to reverse itself. And it creates a new suck on the grid. Now, most Evie, charge card makers, for example, know that after 11pm at night is when the rates are going to be the lowest. Right? Now, if you heard about something called the duck curve, the duck curve talks about how if you look at the outline, it shows about how energy demands rise as people wake up around six o'clock in the morning and lights turn on. And coffeemakers and microwaves turned on fridge doors are open and closed, then it drops about 910 o'clock at night, in the morning by when people have left their homes and gone to work. And then in the evening, when people come back around four to 5pm. And as they turn on the microwave, cooking appliances and lights go on and all of that, that's when there's a sudden ramp of power. And that's called the duck duck curves neck of the duck. And between four to 9pm is when the grid load on the grid is highest. There's also unfortunately the time when the sun solar panels are beginning to produce less. And wind energy is beginning to die down. Yeah, right. So the demand is rising like crazy. Whereas the supply is constrained. So that neck of the duck as the consumption rises is often when the utilities are forced to charge you a higher price. And that makes perfect sense from their perspective. But imagine if in the middle of the day, when the solar panels on your home were shining and not give was not being used. You could have stored that in a battery. Yeah. And just out of two out of those four hours in the evening, between four to nine, if you could have used those batteries for some of your critical appliances. it eases a grid a lot.</p>
<p>22:33</p>
<p>That's a natural conclusion. If that is the case, that duck neck reality you're absolutely spot on about solar production going down as when the sun is at a really lower angle. And then of course when it just sort of lets up. But right. But that is a battery storage solution.</p>
<p>23:00</p>
<p>Correct. And, and battery storage now have wheels on them. Your cars are essentially energy storage devices, but they're mobile. So it's a little miniature power plant that's can go to various parts in the city at various times. It can be charged at various rates, often free. Have you seen those carports and schools and other places that colleges take this picture. So if that's a Battery, Battery on wheels,</p>
<p>23:30</p>
<p>I come home, I'm at four o'clock, I plug my my handy dandy car in it starts discharging. And I've already plugged it or I've already charged it up with well free solar at work. That's right, you're at work, right and I'm using it, that's an efficient way of extracting that energy.</p>
<p>23:50</p>
<p>Exactly. Because if you put energy, you'd increasingly see that canopies over over parking lots increasingly have electric chargers right below it. And no time limits on them either, because you can park there as long as you like. And those panels over there producing enough energy to charge a quarter literally for free. I mean, the owners of the parking lot may not decide to give it to you for free, they may charge you some nominal rate but it doesn't really cost you much to charge the car. So if in the middle of the day you park under a carport which has solar panels on it, you can charge your car for free. So by the time you get home, you don't have a discharged car, your semi or a fully charged car. Yeah. Now you've parked the car in the house and you plug it into your charger, and instead of you charging the car, it doesn't need to it actually discharges the car to ease that duck neck problem for just a couple of hours. Yeah, and then after 11 o'clock at night when the demand has died down. You can charge your car at that point.</p>
<p>24:49</p>
<p>Yeah. And and see what you're talking about. That's the innovation that is available out there. That is when we start talking about the the the digital component and the analytics are necessary. But it's also you've got the, the the technology to do that it's Yeah,</p>
<p>25:06</p>
<p>that does it. It does. And you know, if you think about it, what do you really need for something like this to happen, you need the automation, you need to you need people to remember to login and not pet or not have to worry about, hey, if I put my car in, I don't want it to start charging. Now, I want to, I want to program it to start charging after midnight, or after 11pm. And the rates are the lowest too. But all of this requires real time information coming from millions of EBS and carports. And charging stations and smart meters. And you imagine this is all data management.</p>
<p>25:39</p>
<p>Yeah, I don't know how you know, you bring up a good point. This is just one example, at one home with one power profile. Now multiply that by a million plus. Right, right, then you've got you've got a utility that built off of a very simple structure having to deal with a dynamic, complex. environment is, hey, kudos to those folks. Kudos, because the lights still go on. With all that happening today.</p>
<p>26:17</p>
<p>I think our utilities in the entire country are doing a really good job. They are essentially dealing with a tough problem. We don't really have power shortages or outages in our country. We have a lot of talk about how our grid is old, and how its dilapidated and under budgeted. Yes, okay. Many of those criticisms are valid. But if you think about it, how many times have you lost power? In my 30 years of living in Silicon Valley, I must have lost power for a total of about less than 10 times. And only one of those lasted 24 hours. And because because of the proactive shutdown because of the wildfire, danger caused by high winds that made that 24 hour outage happen otherwise, in spite of the grid being his age of 60 years of old, I haven't really had any brownouts or blackouts. So the grid actually managed really well.</p>
<p>27:08</p>
<p>You're spot on, I telling you, I agree with you, 100%. And when you paint that picture of how there's this brave new world, this future that's happening, it's happening today, but it's going to continue to evolve, continue to push that envelope and continue to change our lives. It's still we still take it for granted. A story a side note, when I was with a utility, an old lineman came to me and said, Scott, we used to have little interruptions, right? Little, little pops nothing big. And the majority of the people didn't know, they just didn't know, the real problem came when everybody had digital clocks. And then they would just interrupt and then all of a sudden, start blinking. That is how I wanted to go. And we had a power outage. We I didn't fail it. But we had a power outage, and then the background start ringing off the hook. And then that's what became a real problem.</p>
<p>28:03</p>
<p>That's right, that's right. Same thing today, two of my microwave starts blinking 12 like the old VCR from 1984. And that's how I know we had a power outage. I never felt it.</p>
<p>28:13</p>
<p>Oh, no, not at all. And again, that's a testament to the the innovation that is taking place today within utilities and companies like Hitachi Ventura, I mean, it just is because without that, without companies like Hitachi Ventura and others. These problems, the benefits of what we're trying to accomplish from an energy production perspective, can only be realized and achieved through the innovation and capabilities of companies like Hitachi Ventura, and you and others literally.</p>
<p>28:47</p>
<p>Yeah, you know, it takes it takes a few decades of having built the equipment ourselves, like the Transformers in a substation, circuit breakers and high voltage equipment and everything else. And then learning from how they behave over time, we've been equipping our own buildings for materials with IoT sensors and collecting data from how hard to get how much they vibrate, what is the oil analysis inside the transformer look like? And we've been doing that for such a long time that we have built this AI models, artificial intelligence models around it, to learn how to detect an upcoming anomaly or a failure. See, we can now take that knowledge and we can export that and we can help other people understand what that is. That's exactly what we do. It's all science. It's science, about the hardware that we then merge into software intelligence and make it available anywhere anytime in the cloud.</p>
<p>29:45</p>
<p>So that's a powerful statement because what what you're talking about is that history having that historical data, having that historical data wrapped around whether Whatever it might be trends demands growth, whatever the the impact of that that electron taking place, and you have that, and then you apply it using that data analytic science applied to an AI, put it in a software, you've already, in essence, you've already just gotten to the point where you only can gain from that, right? Yes, you just become smarter, you just become better.</p>
<p>30:27</p>
<p>Yeah, absolutely. So we have to be think about the flow of electrons, which is not bi directional, as we just discussed, as every bit representing every electron representing a bit of data. There is information in every electron trace. So whether the electron is moving into your house or out, you just learned something. That movement of the electron that is now going in two directions, is the bi-directional data. that knowledge is important. It's not just important for me to reduce my bills, it's important for the grid, it's important for the utilities, it's important for the people who generate our power. It's important for them then to know where to put the next power plant and what should it consist of? And what should the next price be for the energy. All of that matters, data matters.</p>
<p>31:14</p>
<p>Data matters, man, this is I want to make sure listeners, this is important stuff. This is fascinating stuff. You might not think so you might not be in the world of energy utility. You might be manufacturing, it impacts you. It impacts you in a way that you might not see today, but it will be tomorrow. And thank goodness for company. Let me ask you this. Two questions. One. What are the roadblocks? What are the challenges? And then where do you see it going? We've already painted we've, we've done the past, we've done the present. Let's talk about the future and roadblocks.</p>
<p>31:54</p>
<p>Right? So roadblocks. It's difficult for if I were energy utility to figure out where I can spend my precious dollars for infrastructure updates. They need a good amount of foresight into where to update the next transformer because they do not know what's going to fail a lot of the transformers and circuit breakers and everything that has been installed had been installed 40 years ago, 50 years ago, or last distances, and often in very rural areas where it's not easy to always send people it's working fine, but they do not have the insight into whether that equipment is working great, or whether it's time to replace it going out.</p>
<p>32:41</p>
<p>Don't you have the the ability from let's say dissolved gases, let's say you take that generation, the transformer analogy, aren't we gaining greater insights into what is a breakdown in the core of transformers and be able to, to a certain extent, have some sort of predictive curve to say, we're looking here and it is, you know, spinning off whatever dissolved gases, whatever, don't we have a better insights into our assets,</p>
<p>33:10</p>
<p>we do. But I think we only have them on a fraction of the Transformers that are out there, because the older ones do not have the connectivity built into them. So you got to go and update all of them, either by changing the transformer to a newer one, which has got this connectivity built into it. Or you got to attach external sensors and module that can capture that information and transmitted by our cell tower, because they're often in a location where there is no Wi Fi available. That adds expense. And when you talk about 10s of 1000s of transformers, under just one utilities purview. If you combine that with a 300 utilities we have in our country, that becomes a real problem. So very good at getting that it's a modernization of the equipment that needs to happen. So one of the first roadblocks is you need to there has to be a way to quickly get our existing hardware and infrastructure, power equipment to transmit the information to us. And there is no short answer to that. You can either go out and retrofit all of these or better yet, you wait for them to start failing or dying. And when you know that they are through observation that you can do remotely using a drone, for example, you can then go and decide that we need to update this guy, not the other one. That's same age, but it's not being used as much or without going through as many stress cycles because of better weather conditions or whatever. And you don't need to update the other one. But having that insight into knowing which transformer or which switch gear I may need to update in the next few years is key. And the way they were doing that also is fascinating. They fly drones equipped with heat sensing cameras or LIDAR on it where you can fly them and you can capture the images from them as images. Guess what you need an AI algorithm to understand those images because if you have a bunch of interns looking at the photographs trying to figure out if this is a good transformer or a bad bushing you know we're gonna get there never Are you local utility analyze 1.2 million images last You're alone in Northern California alone.</p>
<p>35:07</p>
<p>Okay, so So where do I spend my money? You paint an interesting picture. It is that how do I modernize my, my infrastructure the right way to deploy the right capital at the right time? Now where's where's this future going? What do you see? How come? Why should I not be bullish? or Why should I be bullish on this particular future,</p>
<p>35:29</p>
<p>you shouldn't be bullish, because what's going to happen is, you're going to have homes and clusters of homes, act like their own power companies for a few hours a day. So if I have an Eevee, and my neighbor has an Eevee, and the one next to him has an Eevee. And I've got five electric vehicles in this road, or battery based power wall type of products on my walls, which are energy storage devices, I can theoretically aggregate all of them. And now I have my block of homes as a mini virtual power plant. Yeah, so if I take all my cards that are charged, all of them come home, and all of them have a combined capacity, that's now enough to block to power my block for just two hours, my grip doesn't have to bother about providing the power on a hot day, for two hours, that's a huge relief to them, there has to be some monetization around it. So you got to figure out a way to compensate. The car owners who are allowing their cars to discharge into the house and give literally allow my neighbor to borrow energy from my car today. Right. So there has to be a peer-to-peer way of compensating people, the utility has to get in on the car maker has to get in on it. And it's already happening. Because the car maker is willing to share that information or allow the inverters to be updated. So that energy doesn't just go into the car as it is today. So the inverters have to be bi directional. So the cars have to change a little bit, oftentimes just a software change in the car. It's not a big technical problem. But the way that affects the battery, charge and discharge cycles and the life of the battery, the warranty considerations, all of that sounds like it's a tough problem. But it's not people are already solving it. People like us are already helping merge that auto cloud with the grid cloud and let people consumers have the choice of opting in for that service. Working with their utility, and others.</p>
<p>37:27</p>
<p>So while future I'm just as an old utility guy having this conversation, and and listening to what you say, I mean, as a homeowner, to have a have the thought and say, Yeah, but my neighborhoods just part of this cluster. And we're just dandy. And and, and we've, we've contractually put it all together, and now we're tight spinning and moving and doing this. And now look at that man, it's constantly whatever, that is amazing. Reality, and it's going to happen, because I happen like you and others. Because thinking about innovative ways of making power making. I mean, we just take it for granted. We just do. It's just something that that we just do. Now, how do people get ahold of you?</p>
<p>38:15</p>
<p>Oh, reach out to me on LinkedIn. Shamik Mehta at LinkedIn, or Shamik dot meta at Hitachivantana.com. And I'll be happy to talk to anybody further about this ad nauseum. I love this space.</p>
<p>38:27</p>
<p>Oh, hey, you indicated that you had a couple of slides. Do you think you can offer it up for these fine listeners just as a download a simple demo?</p>
<p>38:36</p>
<p>I can. There is Oh, why don't I do one thing? Why don't I send them over to you? And then you can add them to this presentation if you'd like. And that might be the best way I'd rather not share a slide right now. It just makes it seem so dry and pitchy. I'm not that. Good. All right. You got to right there. But we got to ventura.com</p>
<p>38:53</p>
<p>Yeah, he spells his name m eh, ta so make sure that meta is how you say it. Sh a m ik is the way he spells his first name shimmy. straightforward. You my friend are rock star. You are. Thanks for having me. This is anonymous right here. All right, listeners. We're gonna have everything out there on industrial talk. We're gonna wrap it up on the other side. You're not you're gonna be able to find all the contact information there. So stay tuned. You're listening to the industrial talk Podcast Network.</p>
<p>39:32</p>
<p>All right, two words. Shamik. Mehta. Hitachi Vantara is the company they are doing great things they are solving problems each and every day. People like Shamika and others on team. Hitachi Vantara pretty much making my life better. I knows that they're gonna make your life better as well. This is a brave new food future. They understand the need to innovate. They understand the need to collaborate, reach out to Shamik on a stack garlin saying LinkedIn Baby, you will not will not be disappointed. All right. As you can see on the video, I'm sort of making sure that people are sharing, not really sharing but just supporting these individuals. So please, please, industrial professionals need your support. They're trying to do everything they can to be to make our lives better. So please, subscribe, follow, do whatever is necessary on the social platforms. As you can see by the video I had that popped up, so go out to industrial talk. Find us out there on all of the platforms. All right, be bold, be brave, daring greatly. You're going to change the world. Thank you very much for joining. We're gonna have another great interview right around the corner.</p>
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<h2>PODCAST TRANSCRIPT:</h2>
<p><strong>SUMMARY KEYWORDS</strong></p>
<p>Hitachi, grid, renewables, power, edge, utility, john, big, talk, batteries, power grid, reliability, ABB, industry, lights, industrial internet consortium, technology, hear, energy, event</p>
<p>00:04</p>
<p>Welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott MacKenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hard hat, grab your work boots, and let's go. Alright, welcome to the industrial talk podcast where we celebrate industry heroes such as yourself, you are bold, you're brave, you dare greatly. You're changing the world and you're changing lives. That's why we celebrate you on this particular podcast. Now, this is going to be a series now. And of course, I'm super geeky about all this stuff. This is utility stuff. This is power stuff. This is energy stuff. This is brave new world stuff. And this is stuff that is pushing the edge of innovation. We're going to be talking to a gentleman by the name of john a glass Meyer, and he is with Hitachi ABB power grid. And we're gonna get we're going to start this series and we're going to be talking about what it looks like this brave new future and you know, I turn on my lights and it happens. He's got a great story to tell, let's get cracking. Yep. Okay, you know, I love this stuff. Old lineman as myself. I remembered that, you know, it was pretty simple back then when you'd have these big old dog on generators put right at the edge, typically, Bywater whatever, pushing power and and it was pretty straightforward. And and now we're venturing into a brave new world for power generation, utility, grid management, and how do you pull all that stuff together and make it a product that we who we take for granted. So I walk into a room flip on a light switch? Boop, it happens. And john, with Hitachi ABB power grid, and and others are asking those questions because it is very cool. Before we get into the interview, I want to make sure that you have these two events on your calendar. The first one is IoT solutions World Congress, this is October 5, through the seventh, I am hopefully broadcasting from that location at the at that time, spectacular event brought to you by the industrial internet Consortium, and Farah, Barcelona, both organizations put on a great event, let's get our life back in order. The next one is the manufacturing and technology show this is November 9, through the 11th, it's up in the beautiful town of Cleveland, put that on your bucket list, because it is a great location. And they're gonna bring about some great, you know, information about manufacturing technology. And once again, let's get our life back in order because this is a special time. Alright, let's get on with john. Now, again, john brings up I don't know, a semi load of experience within power grid. And of course, when we start talking about attaching additional grip, when we're starting to talk about what is taking place within a lot of the the management of fossil fuels versus energy and, and vice versa, and what do we do? And how do we do it? How do we and and the market saying, hey, I want more of this? What do we do? How do we respond? How do we ensure that the quality of our power is there, because we've got all this technology and, and yet, be able to implement renewables re implement the innovation that is taking place out there. You know, john and his team at Hitachi ABB are doing it. Now we're going to be doing a little quick cast because this is heavy stuff. And we want to make sure that we can consume it. So these are about 10 minutes or less, give or take a few now we're going to be talking on this particular conversation about the grid edge. So enjoy. JOHN, welcome to the industrial talk podcast. I'm looking forward to this conversation because listeners, I'm a big geek when it comes to anything utility anything generation. And, and john brings, well, all of that. How are you doing, john?</p>
<p>04:26</p>
<p>Great. Thanks, Scott for having me here. I'm I'm I can't say that as excited as you but I'm pretty darn excited. Wow,</p>
<p>04:34</p>
<p>man, you're gonna bring me down now. All of a sudden, I bring you down. No, yeah, I was just sorry. No, you didn't give me a break. All right. For the listeners out there. Give us a little background a little 411 on who john is.</p>
<p>04:45</p>
<p>So I am a senior advisor in grid edge solutions with Hitachi ABB power grids. And you may be wondering what on earth grid edge solutions is I believe we're going to talk about that today. So I won't I won't spend too much time but don't. Don't blow it. But the I also so I worked for Hitachi power grids as well as I'm professor, affiliate faculty at the University of Washington in distributed renewable power systems.</p>
<p>05:11</p>
<p>Is that at University of Washington so what is it? university? Yeah, the Huskies, Huskies fantastic football stadium. Oh, it's it's a beautiful football stadium. Fantastic. And you know, I've heard about boats coming up on it. It's like, hey,</p>
<p>05:29</p>
<p>what will happen is the boats will go out, they'll get lunch on out in Ballard and then they'll boat over through the, through the channel and parked right out there for the games.</p>
<p>05:38</p>
<p>All right, these are quick casts, we're going to be talking a lot about just on topics one topic at a time. So we're not going to be impacting your day. If you're listening. That's what we're going to be talking about. Let's, let's broach the subject of grid edge. What is that? grid edge.</p>
<p>05:57</p>
<p>So you may be familiar with the term edge computing. It's it's the power utility equivalent of that. So the idea is, if you look over the 120 30, plus years of power utility that have brought electricity will all over the North America, this is a little bit of a rethinking of that it's rather than that centralized power plant idea grid edge, flips it on its head and talks about bringing power in from the edge. So it's enabling not just the power out there, but all the smarts and all this intelligence related to that. So that would include things buzzwords that you might hear related to this are micro grids, battery, energy storage systems, distributed energy resource resources, or DVRs. There's a whole bunch of things, solar photovoltaics, they're big in this space, too, if you know that getting your power from the sun.</p>
<p>06:51</p>
<p>For me, we take it for granted that on I flip the switch boom, powers, good lights, good. I've got I've got equipment here. It doesn't like fluctuations in any of the cycles or anything it wants. Clean, consistent power. How is grid edge helping me achieve that? Or, you know, achieving my renewable whatever targets? versus how's that helping me?</p>
<p>07:16</p>
<p>Yep. So that's a that's a great point. You know, we're, you know, Hitachi power grids are just more broadly, within the power industry, reliability has been the cornerstone of that you, you say, you flip the light, it comes on. That is awesome. And that is something that we highly, highly values, we talk about reliability, resiliency. So that's if you had this idea of the light, you flip the light on, it comes on. But what if there are some big dramatic event that hits you say there's a superstorm or hurricane earthquake, with these sorts of grid edge technologies, where you're getting your power is close to you. So there's an expectation that you'll be able to have not only reliability, but also resiliency, you're also figuring out and bringing in some of the automation and controls affiliated with this type of stuff. So that if you want to get your power from lots of renewables get, say, all of your energy from renewables, it provides the power electronics, the controls, the automation, all that stuff you need, you don't have to worry about it.</p>
<p>08:18</p>
<p>You're saying you're saying that if I want to get my lights today, from wind? Well, for lack of a better term right there, right? You're saying the the the automation or the the technology out there? tells me that I am getting in from wind?</p>
<p>08:36</p>
<p>Well, issue it right. Yes, that's right. If you do it, right, you have designed it from the get go with reliability in mind. And you can do that you can run your power system 100% on renewables, if you want, we often look at that. And you may not want that, we like to question Where do you get your power, we definitely, if you want to do that, we can enable you to do that. If you want to focus completely on reliability, if you want to focus on low cost, if you want to do some compromise, or some way to maximize across all those different considerations of reliability, cost, renewable, you know, environment type thing, you can do that with grid edge solutions, they really allow you to do that.</p>
<p>09:21</p>
<p>See? Now that's interesting. What was the tipping point like all of a sudden, you know, traditional utility business model, right? Big generation, pushing it through wires, bringing on data substations, and it's just not right to the house. But it was just big, big stuff. What was that tipping point where if somebody says, Hey, you know, I can have micro grid, I can I can do this. I can do that. But as we continue to do this and that it requires greater sophistication from a digital point of view. Right? digitalization, what was that tipping? What was that tipping point?</p>
<p>09:57</p>
<p>So you know, actually, I think it's essentially I don't know I haven't really thought about it in those terms of a tipping point, I've thought of it more like a locomotive getting up to speed, there's just been sort of momentum building around this. There are there have certainly been some big moments, some watershed type moments, things like the price of solar panels, solar photovoltaic panels coming down consistently. I mean, you know, you think about that 1010 years ago, the price of solar panels were about, oh, somewhere in the neighborhood of five to 10 times what they are today, you look at battery, and the batteries that go into some of these, you know, big you'll hear it called in, in the, in the common media, the batteries in the utility network, you know, if you're getting the technical service or battery energy storage systems, those the price of the batteries that go inside those, those have come down, like five years ago, they were maybe $3,000 a kilowatt hour. They're they're also down by about an order of magnitude. So you can get the batteries that go in for, you know, normally around a 10th of that today. So there's been these massive swings that of course, you'd be remiss not to talk about the computer revolution that's that's been our Yeah, see,</p>
<p>11:13</p>
<p>that's that's hold that industry for Dotto, that whole innovation that all that that one day, we couldn't do it today we can it's all cloud, it's, it's this it's that we're going, you know, data analytics, we're just popping and snapping and all that stuff. To your point, Tesla has come out with a car, electric car. And I think the price point on it is 19 grand. It's it's, it's the economics, that is from my perspective, driving this, if the economics continue to push down and makes it more viable, utilities as a whole, have no excuse, they've got to figure something out. And that's where that's where Hitachi power grid comes into play. Because you, your organization, make sure that my lights don't flicker.</p>
<p>12:07</p>
<p>Yeah, it's, it's, it's all well and good to have an electric vehicle but you, you talk about wanting your lights to come on, I guarantee you, if you've got a vehicle that's powered by it, you definitely want that power there when you need it. And with these grid edge technologies, you can have that assurance, you can have the assurance of the utility, with an additional security layer right there. You can have some backup at your house, at your business, in your community, all these different layers of where you get your power from, and where you get your reliability from. Those can all be brought together under this portfolio of solutions.</p>
<p>12:42</p>
<p>And the bottom line, it's happening. It's happening, you either either play or you just move aside because it's like your train analogy. It's happening. You're trying to get down that and it's only going to go faster. It's only it's only going to be it's just going to happen, you better be a part of that whole game.</p>
<p>13:00</p>
<p>You got to be a part of it. And you know that you'd be remiss not to talk about just, you know, it's not just the cost of these things. It's also people are demanding it. People want their energy to come from renewable sources. Many people are worried about climate change. There's all these considerations that are you know, you hear it in the remaking the backbone into the renewable backbone, the backbone of the grid, renewable backbone or this full decarbonisation of society, electrify everything, all these things fit under that we want to use renewables to power more of our lives and make sure that we can get our modern energy services to things that power our lives from those sources in a reliable clean, low cost way.</p>
<p>13:44</p>
<p>Alright, we got to wrap it up. Sir john glass Meyer, did I get that my Yes, sir. Oh, Ron, again, glass. All right, hot. Hitachi power grids is the organization john, how do they get ahold of you?</p>
<p>14:00</p>
<p>You can email me, I assume you'll pop it up on the site. And probably reach out. I've also I'm also on LinkedIn, you name it. I'm here to listen.</p>
<p>14:10</p>
<p>Alright, dead sexy conversation. We're gonna, we're going to continue to sort of sort of a sort of he's quick Cass type of things that wrap around this whole utility energy power grid. The reason for that is because we it's the only way we're going to be able to consume this because it's pretty damn sophisticated. All right, we're gonna wrap it up on the other side. You're gonna have all the contact information for john, and anything else. Thank you very much for joining the industrial talk podcast. We will be right back. You're listening to the industrial talk Podcast Network.</p>
<p>14:48</p>
<p>Alright, that's number one. Number one, and as you can see that this is interesting from my perspective, and hopefully from your perspective as you are in industry, because this will impact you how we address power how we address energy, how we address the grid, how do we create a stable environment such as that, telling you, it's an exciting time. And I don't know what the future holds. But people like john and company, though, they know what's going on. And that's pretty exciting. All right. Again, we have an event October 5 through the seventh IoT solutions World Congress, brought to you by those incredible folks at industrial internet Consortium, as well as Farah Barcelona. Both organizations put on a fabulous event. So you know, put that on your bucket of Barcelona's great place. And also Let's go, let's, let's do what November 9 through the 11th. This is in Cleveland, Ohio. This is the manufacturing and technology show. Both great opportunities. All right. Be bold, be brave, daring greatly. Change the world. Thank you for joining the industrial talk podcast.</p>
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<p><strong>Trend Micro Company Website: </strong><a href="https://www.trendmicro.com/en_us/business.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.trendmicro.com/en_us/business.html</a></p>
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<p><strong>Personal LinkedIn: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-flores-4800b8a/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-flores-4800b8a/</a></p>
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<p><a href="https://iiot-world.com/industrial-iot-cybersecurity-from-the-shop-floor-to-the-board-room/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://iiot-world.com/industrial-iot-cybersecurity-from-the-shop-floor-to-the-board-room/</a></p>
<p><a href="https://iiot-world.com/ics-security/cybersecurity/9-best-cybersecurity-practices-itot-environment/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://iiot-world.com/ics-security/cybersecurity/9-best-cybersecurity-practices-itot-environment/</a></p>
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<h2>OTHER GREAT INDUSTRIAL RESOURCES:</h2>
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<p>cybersecurity, trend micro, industrial, people, industry, organizations, network, business, ryan, attackers, cyber, important, pay, attacks, Iot, ransomware, richard, colonial, challenges, gain</p>
<p>00:04</p>
<p>Welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott MacKenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hard hat, grab your work boots, and let's get</p>
<p>00:21</p>
<p>All right. Welcome to the industrial talk podcast, the number one location for all things industrial. Yep, industrial talk, go figure. We talked industrial. We've got a five part series, a five part series that focuses in on industrial cybersecurity, we're going to be featuring some incredible at trailblazers, let's put it that way in the world of cybersecurity, and I believe, and I think you believe if you're going down this world of digital transformation, and you want to take advantage of industrial for Dotto, you need at the forefront of this particular decision, this strategic decision to help create greater resiliency in your business. cybersecurity, let's get cracking. So, yeah, I, I've been very fortunate. And of course, you know, as well as I do, that there's a lot of conversation out there about cyber security, you have the colonial pipeline. And so industrial talk as a whole wants to be this just a central location for industrial related information. So you don't have to go around. We want to promote events, we want to promote individuals that are speaking at these events, we want to facilitate this knowledge, because we believe that education is it, education, collaboration, and innovation is where success will be in the future. And that's just a reality of it. So I mentioned briefly about this particular five part series, this is the first of five, this is cybersecurity threats, challenges, risks in industrial control environments, and this just came out after the colonial pipeline, which on the industrial talk website, we will have a white paper that was produced by incredible people at trend, micro and Trend Micro sponsoring this particular series, they are fabulous to work with a. I mean, when you think about cybersecurity, when you think about all the stuff that has to be thought of and, and how they facilitate this digital transformation. They're not meant to get in your way. They're, they're meant to make sure that that your life is not interrupted by unfortunate situations within cybersecurity. That's what Trend Micro is all about. Now, number two in this particular series will be industrial business and tech, not technical challenges facing industry. Number three cybersecurity best practices, number four, industrial cyber solutions, which is pretty cool. And then finally, CEO, CEO talk. So we're gonna have a conversation on I mean, we've just got to recognize that this is important now, because I'm all about getting that information out there is an event. This is an event that is featuring and Trend Micro, it is a live event, it is June 16. This is for the Americas June 16. It is from 11am to 4pm. Eastern Time, and they're going to be talking all things cyber, because it's important. It's like the the the topic is ready for a new perspective, don't miss this exclusive one day virtual event. And it's going to be featuring the CEO of Trend Micro and then a gentleman by the name of Neil McDonald, VP and distinguished analyst at Gartner. How about that. And if you're not if you're in Europe, they have one for you, too. It's on June 16. But it's 10am to 3pm. And then if you're in the Middle East Africa and Mediterranean, same thing, June 15 11am, to 4pm. And then finally an Asia Pacific 10am to 3pm. A go out and I'll have the link. Don't worry about it. I'll have the link out there. But I think that this is an important conversation to have. I think you need to be a part of it. I think you need to hear from leaders within this space because well,</p>
<p>04:26</p>
<p>if you want that digital transformation journey, if you want to embrace that, if you want to reap the benefits associated with all of that, you need to have a sound and strong cybersecurity strategy, Trend Micro reach out to them. Alright, this particular podcast which we're going to convert into the industrial Academy, because I think it's a it's a series that warrants an industrial Academy type of approach. So this particular podcast we're going to be talking about cybersecurity threats, challenges and risks to industrial Control environment, it features a gentleman by the name of Brian Flores as well as a Richard Kuh. bolt with Trend Micro enjoy. Ryan and Richard, thank you very much for joining the industrial talk podcast listeners, what we're going to be talking about is cyber security threats, challenges and risks in the industrial control environment. I don't know where you set on that, and then anything cybersecurity, but that for that particular topic is dead sexy. I am excited about having this conversation. For the listeners and Ryan, give us a little background on who you are level set, figure out who you are. And then then we're gonna go to Richard, do the same thing. And then we're gonna go into that topic.</p>
<p>05:42</p>
<p>All right. Hi, everyone. I'm Ryan florists. I'm happy to be here. I've been working in the cybersecurity space for more than a decade now. Investigating attacks and incidents. So you know, the recent attacks that have been happening, it's some quite close to my passion. And in my field.</p>
<p>06:06</p>
<p>It's interesting. I, I'm looking at your stat card out on LinkedIn, you've been with Trend Micro for 18 years. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Why don't you just start at age one?</p>
<p>06:16</p>
<p>No, no. Um, yeah. Right on it right out of college? Oh, yeah. So if I just one of those young guys that are doing reverse engineering, you know, solutions for viruses and malware that are coming around, and then, you know, progressed to, to looking at cyber criminals and the other technologies and infrastructure that, you know, that is being used, and that is emerging. So I'm excited, we are excited to be in the space.</p>
<p>06:49</p>
<p>I'm telling you, you have a tiger and you got to hold on to that tail, because it's they're very creative people out there very nefarious individuals that never stop thinking about how to, unfortunately, gain access to where they're not supposed to gain access. All right, Richard, give us a little background on who you are, and why you're such an incredible cyber guy.</p>
<p>07:11</p>
<p>Thank you, Scott. Yeah, so I've been around in the cyber security space for a little bit over 30 years. And, you know, over the last, I will say, five years or so I've been very focused on, you know, I just had no development and understanding of, you know, cybersecurity in the industrial space. But I am, you know, in the cybersecurity for more than 30 years, with the company. Previously, I involved in a lot of product development, a lot of research. So, yeah, I've been very passionate about, you know, cyber security, specifically on the industrial area, right, because I think over the last, you know, couple years, we have been having a lot of challenge, you know, especially in some of the critical infrastructure. And so we're going to talk about that a little bit more, but I'm excited to be here.</p>
<p>07:59</p>
<p>Yeah, here's the interesting part. You know, there's that the good side, bad side, double edged sword type of thing with this digital transformation journey, right? It just is. Yeah, you leverage the the available. innovation that exists out there that give you greater insights into what your business is doing. But then again, again, you're opening up areas of weakness, potentially, if you're not a business, if you're not an industrial business, not thinking about, Hey, this is great IoT stuff. What's that cyber side? Ryan, let's talk a little bit about, from my perspective, just lay the foundation of what I say, what's a cyber one, what is a cybersecurity threat? What does that mean? And why are people interested in trying to gain access to the industrial, you know, infrastructure?</p>
<p>08:54</p>
<p>Yeah. So, um, basically, a cyber threat is something that can, uh, adversely affect your network or your digital assets, right. So it can be something in a more traditional IT network, it can be like the server, it can be a user account that has access to certain information. And in other networks, like in an OT network, that can be an ICS endpoint that is responsible for controlling a certain process or monitoring certain conditions, right. But the thing that we've learned in, you know, in studying these kind of attacks, is that a lot of times the attackers don't don't really target or maybe they don't have an initial idea who they were able to compromise or gain access to, is just that, they learn about it when they are able to gain access, and then Okay, this looks like an important company. This looks like an important server in the network, I'm going to attack it, ransom, ransom it. So, and then I think like, for example, in colonial attack, right, the attackers even admitted that they were not aware of the impact of of that back that they have done.</p>
<p>10:20</p>
<p>So, again, let's get into the psychology of it. Why Why? Why is that appealing? To some? It's like, I know, I don't outside the fact that I'm, I might be considered lazy, but I don't sit around saying how do I, you know, penetrate get into? for no reason. It's like, Oh, yeah, I don't understand what's the psychology behind that.</p>
<p>10:47</p>
<p>It's it's just the money. Um, it's, it's a business out there. Um, so a lot of the attacks that are happening right now is its monetary driven, they plan to gain profit from the attacks on either via extorting for, for the files that that has been, or the network that has been held ransom, or by by by blackmailing that, hey, if you don't pay me up, I would I would reveal this information, this, this data that I have on you that I have stolen from your network, or are building up a supply value chain in the cybercrime underground network, meaning, if I, for example, have stolen several credentials, and it's quite important, I can then resell this to somebody else who might be interested in this credentials for later use. So it's really an economy out there and everything is doing with money. So</p>
<p>11:55</p>
<p>we can add it right. Because I think if you look at the history of cyberthreat, right, yeah, back in the 90s, right, most of these cyber incident or threat is really coming from I think, you know, kids or college students, and, you know, laboratory, right, that's kind of early 80s and 90s. Right, and it's proving they can do it, but then as over time, right, and you start to see these, all these digital transformation, and people are starting to see that there's a, you know, economically gain from it, right. And so, all these you know, you know, attack, or these hackers now try to basically transform their business model right, from not just, you know, I tried to prove they can do it, but now they are, you know, really focused on monitoring gains and gaining access to, you know, confidential information. So all those underground, right, and that whole underground market. Oh, it is the economy, actually is quite big. I mean, it's probably a couple of trillion dollars in terms of the whole economy underground. Right. And so, well, then it's easy for them to make money, right. I mean, you know, we work. Yeah, it's easy for them. So,</p>
<p>13:04</p>
<p>the T word, oh, my jaw just dropped. I said, I can't you dropped a trillion on that</p>
<p>13:12</p>
<p>hole, maybe 100 billion, you know, I can't remember the exact number. But the last look, it was something like, I can't remember Ryan. But what something two or $300 billion, or something economy or something. Right. So it's more on the beat, not on the team? Yeah.</p>
<p>13:29</p>
<p>Holy cow. Yeah. I better get I better sharpen up my skills. If that's the case. No, no, don't even don't even contact me and say that. Okay. So, me, business owner, I'm still very confused. And the reason I'm confused is, is where are the laws that in this case, let's let's let's use the the elephant in the room. Let's just take a take that, for example, you got this ransomware situation on colonial pipeline, it is impacting me, and it's impacting a lot of people around the United States. And they I guess, they tracked it back to Russia and all of this good stuff. What What do we do we we pay for that extortion? What What do we do?</p>
<p>14:16</p>
<p>What are the laws? Unfortunately, a lot of victims actually opt to pay or not a lot. You know, a significant number of victims pay because it's it's also difficult for them to to recover. Once, for example, your network is hacked. They also they also play the economic game, right? So it takes us one month to recover and pay this amount of money to contractors to software licenses and everything like that instead of just paying it so they have you know, they did have to juggle that with the time constraints that they also have.</p>
<p>14:58</p>
<p>Yes. Now I understand it's like, boom, incident happens ransomware bring where we've got a problem. Now the decision on the business side is like, okay, we can pay it. Okay, I see it, or I haven't got to find somebody or some company or some entity to remove it has a price. This has a price. And you got to look at it. from that. That point of view. Yes. Oh, that's ugly. I'm sorry.</p>
<p>15:32</p>
<p>Oh, yeah. And that's really difficult, especially in in industrial environments, because you also need to factor in, you know, last time. Yes, right.</p>
<p>15:42</p>
<p>Yes. So let's, let's, let's sort of pull on that string a little bit with the colonial pipeline ransomware. Do you by chance, Ryan have any insights into what what took place with that event?</p>
<p>15:59</p>
<p>Alright, so I'm not going to speak about anything that I don't factually know. But for example, it's been known that these ransomware groups don't operate by themselves, they have other affiliates or partners that would do the actual hacking for them. And they just, you know, it's like, commission based, you install a ransomware into a compromised network, we don't do the compromise ourselves. We don't do the hacking ourselves. But if you've managed to hack the network, contact us, and you'll get a cut of whatever profit we make from that. So there's also like a, you know, tiered model there. And then it's also depends on whom they're able to, to hack or compromise. If it's a bigger company, they would ask for a bigger ransom. If it's a smaller company, you know, they actually judge the cup the capability to pay of the victim. So and how would the initial compromise or hack happen? several things. There are there might be unpatched systems that are exposed to the internet, there might be, you know, fished user accounts, user credentials, that attackers were initially able to gain access to, or there might just be some security misconfigurations that are made available, or, you know, the hacker was able to, by happenstance, able to access and these things happen, and we've seen, you know, all of these things played out in previous incidents.</p>
<p>17:41</p>
<p>So this is it. This is unnerving. Right? You and others would turn micro, this never stops, right? No, they don't just say, Hey, guys, Trend Micro there, they've, they've pretty much should protect everything. And so we might as well just shut it down. That's not the case. They're gonna continue to try to figure out ways of penetrating these because the financial rewards are too great.</p>
<p>18:14</p>
<p>Oh, yes, definitely. That's why for example, you know, one of the push is not just for, for having security products, but also having people in, in the industry advocate for more cybersecurity, or tailored cybersecurity for this particular niche, right. Industry niche. Yeah, and also having people in the industry, talk to each other share information, share best practices, in order to have a higher raise the bar for the attackers, you know, to overcome.</p>
<p>18:49</p>
<p>So I hear what you're saying, I'm uncomfortable, I'm getting. Now if they hack me, I've got $20 out there, I'll pay for it. But that's about it, that I don't have anything beyond that. But let me ask you this. What are the actionable items that we could do today? If I was a business? Give us a little, you know, 123 do these things today?</p>
<p>19:14</p>
<p>All right. Um, yeah. So so one of the things that we've seen is that, um, basic security, hygiene or cybersecurity hygiene is not, or, you know, it's not as widespread as we would have hoped. There's a lot of small companies out there that that have what one ID administrator guy who's managing the whole network, both it and ot network side, and that is not enough. One of the things that, that contribute to that is, is that there's the awareness of the business owner of the magic Assuming that security is important, cybersecurity is important. So I think if we have to start somewhere, we have to put out the word out there that, first and foremost, cybersecurity is important, specially, if you have critical infrastructure and critical equipment process for that you maintain and run, right. And the next step of that would be make the investment, the investment in hiring the right people, and implementing the right technology in order to properly protect all of this assets and processes. And third, would be having good knowledge on what is in your network. A lot of times, what we've seen is that the reason why an attacker is able to enter the network is because there is one computer out there, that has been forgotten that it's not part of the audit, that was just lying there connected to the network, and everybody has forgotten about it. And that was the what the attacker was able to gain access to. So having complete visibility and audit on what assets you have, and what were those where those assets are connected to, and what these assets mean to the network would be, you know, a good step to be able to know, your network and to be able to properly protect the network.</p>
<p>21:32</p>
<p>Yeah, a couple of things as well. I think in addition to you know, Ryan's point, when I speak to many of my customers appointment, there are kind of four key pillars that I typically recommend them, right. And those are, you know, people process technology and culture within an organization, right. And so, I think people play a very important role in cyber security or your cyber strategy, right? If you have a good train, security awareness organization, that can reduce your cybersecurity risk, as well as having the competence peoples and risk to deal with such instances, the employer was I think the people pieces are also very important. And then you know, followed by that process, right, you know, to get a good cybersecurity strategy, you need to have some type of process in place, right, so that you can some kind of governance or some type of auditing, to make sure that you as you implement your cyber strategy, you continue to evolve, you continue to basically make sure that you get improved over time, right, and so a good process in place, and that they're also very good in the technology itself, specifically on the industrial control side, right, in industrial control, because some of these systems have been around for decades, right, and many of this system have, or operating system, you know, it was never designed to have security. So you wanted to build the right security solution implement right solution, is to make sure that the solution, you actually mean to that environment can be adapt, right and work in that environment. Because my experience, we have many customers, where they try to take an IT product and try to deploy it on an OT environment, and does not always solve the problem, because they actually create more problems than, you know, solving it. So understanding technology, right, you know, validate, verify, and make sure the technology can be worked on that environment. And then of course, last but not least, is that culture thing, right? You know, it's, you have to create some kind of like culture, cybersecurity culture within the organization. And, you know, and that will really going to help people to kind of, you know, evolve around and make sure that can be done. Otherwise, you know, people just don't care too much and put us in cybersecurity very low. So, at least those are the on a very big picture with a fundamental thing I think organizations need to consider, and then you talk about what are my cyber security cyber framework need to look at? Right, so</p>
<p>24:04</p>
<p>those are the things very good on both both accounts, very interesting. Now. It makes sense. What are the roadblocks what what are preventing people to do the what is right for their organizations in the world of cybersecurity? What what are they not getting?</p>
<p>24:28</p>
<p>Me? Wrong, you can add? Right, as you know, I think that especially in the industrial sector, there are some definitely business challenges. Right. And, and we can talk about a little bit and also there's some technical challenges, you know, and those are the roadblocks. I think in in especially on the OT world, right, you have kind of four areas that I see it a big challenge. One is that lack of domain knowledge and expertise right especially on you know, in cybersecurity for ot or industrial control side. There's a lack of skill set lack of expertise in that area. So that's one big, I think, kind of issue on that. And then, you know, traditionally you have this conversion between it ot Yeah, you don't have that before I before, which is it, and then ot they are completely separate. But now you have this convergence. And that roles and responsibilities become very unclear as to who need to manage or need to make decision on soon, let's say a cyber incident. Right. And that is also a big, big challenge for many, many organization. And then another piece, is that legacy liability, right? You know, you have all these all environment going around for that? And how do you make sure that you can implement the right technology, the right solution into those environments? So that's a big challenge for them, because maybe this environment being worked and, you know, will continue to work, you know, for the next five or 10 years. Right. And I want to touch it. Right. And, you know, in always a day, it will work in you know, why? Why bought it right? So I think that's a big, you know, obstacle for folks. And I think last but not least, and it is from my perspective is that, you know, organization tend to kind of put ha, I will say priority on the economic side, versus cybersecurity, right, cybersecurity is always going to kind of draw or color the secondary, you know, I think priority. And so, I think that had to change giving someone a very current incident, like from the colonial pipeline, or the solar wind attacks, or even some of the, you know, Microsoft, you know, vulnerability, right. These are, it should be, you know, upfront and impiety for many organizations. So it is those are some of the challenges in know, people maybe last thing is, is that all I write people don't see your return on investment, as you will come to investing in cybersecurity. Right. And so, they want to see the economic and sometimes, you know, you don't see that. So it's those are some of the I think, potential challenges for many organizations. Well,</p>
<p>27:08</p>
<p>I guarantee a colonial knows about the ROI understands the economic impact. That's for doggone sure you have anything to add to that, right.</p>
<p>27:17</p>
<p>Oh, yeah, I think the one thing that I would like to add is that I think there's still big discrepancy you between what the IT people think, and ot people think. And I think it's just a matter of them. Getting into a room together, understanding each other's priorities and what we are they're trying to achieve, such so that the digitization that is happening right now proceeds with security in mind, and also supports both the it objective and the OT objective.</p>
<p>27:53</p>
<p>And that's cultural. None. And, yes, Richard brought that up. And that's a cultural thing. And we've all been in organizations where that, that they don't talk. They they just don't.</p>
<p>28:05</p>
<p>Yeah, unfortunately, you know, in this industry, especially for the industrial control side, right, these people haven't been talking to each other for so so many decades, right. And now, you know, because this convergence is forcing people to have that conversation and talking, and I think it's very difficult, right?</p>
<p>28:24</p>
<p>So I've got a couple of other sort of insights here that I want to ask you guys. First off, let's say I'm a I'm a business. And, and I think Ryan and Richard, you painted a picture that it's a dynamic environment out there, and you got to keep current and you got to constantly consume this information in some way, shape or form. You got to find the organizations to be able to share their story, which is pretty hard when it comes to cybersecurity people are not really sharing information from a business, what's going on? Now? I've got limited, let's say limited resources, fine. Is there a value proposition for what I would call a fractional cybersecurity expert? Like, I can't have a guy on on board? I can't pay that. But I can try to fractionalize and say, I've got I've got somebody over here that keeps current with all the information that's out there. I can draw upon that. There's a it makes sense for my financials, but I'm in the I'm moving forward in a secure or a secure strategy. Is there is there any value proposition there?</p>
<p>29:37</p>
<p>I think I'm within the industry. There are industry specific cert computer emergent emergency response teams. I believe there's ICS cert. that exists, and they are the they would have, they would send regular notices on certain incidents that are happening. that are affecting the industry. So there are organizations out there that do this kind of things that help distill, you know, that stream of information and turn it to the right. Industry and to the right, people. I think also, there's some isaaq type of organizations that is also for for ICS, and to. So I think, you know, if you're a business, and you're, you know, you want to have industry relevant information regarding cybersecurity, it would be best to subscribe into these types of organizations and mailing lists, because, you know, the information that that arrives to us already filtered out, and it would be relevant to your industry.</p>
<p>30:52</p>
<p>We talk about and I think, I think, Richard, you brought it up, which is very important. In in the world of utilities, when we start talking about legacy liability, there are assets out there that are 5060. And beyond years of age, and it still works still current churning along, I see a real challenge to say, how do we create a secure environment for those, and that's also in the water, right? You don't you don't want compromises in the water world, you just don't? And, and given the realities that have taken place recently, with colonial and others? I don't, I want to compress my time. So how do I get ahold of somebody at Trend Micro to help me with my learning curve to get up to a speed where I feel comfortable. And then I can start deploying the things that I need to do to process or begin to think through it. Because I just, if you want this digital transformation, world we want to live in, you cannot ignore the cyber side, cybersecurity side, is there a way of being able to contact Trend Micro?</p>
<p>32:18</p>
<p>Yeah, so, you know, as you know, turnback have been around for over 30 years, right. And we have many partners, as well, as you know, you know, reseller across in the US or across multiple regions are, and, you know, and each of these partners, and, you know, partner, we actually do a lot of training for them, right? available need to buy used to be, you know, person to person in the past, but now we have not online materials, that, you know, anyone can actually come into our website and get that training, and you get that education. And that's available today through our partners or through some our retailers. Right. And, of course, you know, there are tons of information that we are making available for anyone that who are interested in learning more of this, you know, at our website, where you just contact Trend Micro directly, and we'd be happy to send you all the necessary information needed.</p>
<p>33:15</p>
<p>Yeah, out on the trend micro.com website. And I'm looking at everything you've got, it's, it's easily navigate, I can navigate around it, I can see every thing that exists out there, I see partners to see support. I think it's an easy, easy peasy way of being able to sort of begin that education and cybersecurity just because, I mean, let's just let's just lay it on the table. You have to you can't ignore it, right. You're just Yeah, sorry. You might want to, and, but you're gonna have to do it.</p>
<p>33:53</p>
<p>So to add, if you know, our viewers or listeners can just google Trend Micro IoT security, we actually have a dedicated page for IoT security related news and research straight from the research team, such as from my team and other teams inside Trend Micro, and that's, you know, condensed, organized into that single page for the relevant information.</p>
<p>34:20</p>
<p>All right, listeners, we're gonna have all these links, including some of the other resources that they were talking about. So Fear not, you'll be able to find everything you possibly can. There it is. I just, I've been on the the Trend Micro site. I just popped into the Trend Micro IoT security site. Excellent. Yep. resource rich. No complaining, baby. Not. You're not gonna listen to it. If I did complain, I'm already nervous. Yeah. All right. We're gonna have to wrap it up. This and I want to make sure everybody notes this. This is a real important conversation. We're going to continue to expand upon it because we have more in the area of cybersecurity. So, don't, don't just say this is one a done, we've got more that are is very important. This is a very important topic that is meaningful to your business. This was on cybersecurity stretch challenges and risks. Big, big, we're going to give you some links out there definitely. This is going to be an A video, it's going to be often. So learn your cybersecurity. Ryan, absolute wonderful meeting you. Thank you, Scott, for having us. always enjoyed your conversation. Richard, you're all great. Thanks, guys. Awesome job. Yep, thank you. And once again, listeners, we're gonna wrap it up on the other side, we're gonna once again figure out how to can contact with his Jensen and everything that's associated with cybersecurity. You're listening to the industrial talk, Podcast Network. All right, once again, this is number one in a series of five regarding cybersecurity, and digital transformation and why it's important for you, as a manufacturer, as anybody within industry, to reach out to Trend Micro find out more, it'll all be out there on industrial talk COMM And remember, we're going to have this as a featured industrial Academy, learning management opportunity, as well with all of the links, all of the contact, all of the information that you could possibly need to gear up and make sure that you are truly ready to go in your cyber world. Once again, let's talk a little bit about that event that we're talking about. June 16. Put that on your calendar 11am 4pm. I have the links out there. Just Just go out to industrial talk, find the right time zone. But remember, you need to have this conversation. You need to be able to do this. It is exceptionally important. Now, before I go, second podcast, industry, business and technology trends, stay tuned. We're gonna have another great conversation.</p>
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<p><strong>SUMMARY KEYWORDS</strong></p>
<p>utility, systems, innovate, companies, intel, ricky, modernize, industrial, substation, talk, renewables, people, platform, world, innovation, power, conversation, run, moving, infrastructure</p>
<p><strong>SPEAKERS</strong></p>
<p>Scott MacKenzie, Ricky Watts with Intel Corporation</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>00:04</p>
<p>Welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott MacKenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hard hat, grab your work boots, and let's get All right. Welcome to the industrial talk podcast. Another show that is dedicated to industry heroes. That's right, you if we're out there on the old video, I'm pointing right at you. You're an industry hero because you are bold, you're brave. You dare greatly. you innovate. You're changing lives. You're changing the world, and you're solving problems. Did I leave anything else out? No, I don't think so. We are all as an industry bound together. And we have these ties. Everybody is interlinked. That's why we must educate, collaborate. And definitely, you're an innovation. So keep innovating out there because we depend on you. hotseat industrial talk hotseat. His name is Ricky watts. And he is the industrial solutions director with a small little company called Intel. You might have heard of them. But anyway, let's get cracking. We're gonna be talking about utility to Dotto.</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>01:19</p>
<p>Yeah, again,</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>01:21</p>
<p>another utility conversation. Alo, I mean, you gotta admit, I love geeking out about this whole utility stuff, but it's really becoming a, an interesting challenge to be able to manage supply, manage demand, and innovative people.</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>01:39</p>
<p>And innovative companies that constantly say this is better, better, not just for before the demand side, but better for the supply side. It is a brave new world. And this is a great conversation once again, and we're going to be talking about a number of things. Ricky's, Ricky's got some passion, big time, you're going to enjoy this conversation in a big, big way. Before we get in to that conversation. I want to just remind you, that industrial talk.com is a platform where you can educate where you can collaborate, where you can definitely work with the individuals to innovate, because we're innovation is and if you don't think that we're not bound together, that we don't have ties in industry, all industries, if you're talking about utilities, yes, it has ties to manufacturing, if you're talking about manufacturing, yes, it has ties to reliability and supply chain, and and how does that whole beautiful</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>02:44</p>
<p>You know, network work, it requires that you educate because</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>02:49</p>
<p>everybody is just learning so much. And there's a lot of innovation going on out there that you just have to keep current. And that's what industrial talk is all about. Just go there. And if you see anybody you want to reach out to do so, because they're putting themselves out there. They're looking at this world. They're very excited about what is happening and what's changing in it. Alright, let's get with Ricky watts. Again, Intel is the company Ricky watts is the individual hotseat. His card is really pretty cool out there on on LinkedIn. And</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>03:24</p>
<p>it's, it's funny to hear just just like we</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>03:30</p>
<p>had a conversation with Dean with Hitachi. There's just this level of excitement that exists with this innovation and I know that Intel, Ricky, his team, and everybody there they're looking at ways of being able to do that, that bring the innovation to make you know consumer our lives. If I'm a business our lives better if I'm just a consumer, I flipped the switch our lives better. They they are looking at the world through the lens of innovation. And I love it. That it's it's a geek fast. Don't get me wrong as a former journeyman transmission lineman, I love utilities. I love what I do. I love the people within industry just it. It just keeps on getting better. All right, enjoy this conversation with Ricky watts. Ricky Welcome to the industrial talk podcast absolute honor that you found time and you're you're a hard man to get ahold of you are running and gunning there at Intel. How are you doing? I'm doing well my friend and yourself. Wait, thank you for asking. I'm doing well because I get to talk to you. And we get to talk about utility to Dotto we get to do and I and I'm gonna geek out on this one I am I'm gonna geek out. Listeners we've been having a just a dandy conversation prior to this particular recording. And he brings the passion. There's no doubt about it. You're gonna find out that Ricky brings the passion. All right before we get into the utility to dot o Ricky give us a little background little 411 I'm looking at your</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>05:00</p>
<p>We didn't stack card. It's impressive. Give us a little background. Okay, so yeah, so Ricky watts, you can tell by my accent, I come from this little island, outside of Europe, they're all called the UK. But, but I'm living over here in the US now working with Intel looking after the industrial solutions, what we call segment market and to look after the markets within industrial, including utilities. So and let me tell you about ourselves. So I spent 28 years on the road, I've lived in China, I've lived in India, I've lived in Europe, I've lived in six or seven places in the US, Russia, Nigeria, Middle East, you name it, I've been there. So I came out of the telco world Originally, I was trained as a radio engineer, satellite broadcasting, moved into the software world, I've done many, many roles was in South Africa for five years, you know, working on modernizing their comms infrastructure. But nowadays, I'm really focused on what we call, you know, these industrial segments in the utilities market. And</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>06:03</p>
<p>what I'm trying to look at is from an Intel perspective, there's a lot of technology that we talked about, that's coming in your around this utility to dot zero, yeah, how an Intel and how can we bring these technologies together, that really innovate, drive to the next level in terms of what we can do here? You know, the the reuse of renewables in the manufacturing? How do we use power? How do we generate power? How do we understand the use of that power, all of those system level activities, bringing all of that together, and that's really one of the passions that I got is bringing all those pieces of my background together to drop down</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>06:44</p>
<p>in the utility space as a whole, on very reluctant to change, because they have a system that is pretty stable. And very, we take it for granted here in the United States and others where we didn't we flipped that light switch on it is on what is driving the necessity for utilities to innovate and change?</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>07:06</p>
<p>Well, I think it comes from a few areas.</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>07:10</p>
<p>You know, there's if you look at it from the fact that the utilities are looking at how they use in power and how they're generating power, okay, so those are the two things the usage and the generation side of it. So look at the generation side of it, we know that we're getting a lot more things on the renewable side company, wind, solar, these renewable things that are coming in micro grid technology, solar powers on people's roofs, with, there's a lot more places that we're generating power than we did before, when it was generated at the central plant, you know, if it was nuclear, or coal or gas or whatever. Now we got power being generated everywhere. So they got to be how do they do that? How do they bring these things together? That's a challenge for them. You know, how do you distribute that power? That's a real big challenge for them as well, then, of course, we've got the impact of governments, whether it's the US government, whereas the EU government doesn't matter. governments around the world are saying, hey, one of the things we got to look at is this idea of climate change, you know, you hear it all the time, you know, and how are we affecting the planet and through the use of our power, so there's regulation that's coming, that's driving change as well, the regulations coming down. So we've got renewables coming in, which the the utility companies want to tap into, they want to do it intelligently. They've got government regulation coming, and then I'll go down to what is his brass knuckles? Can I reduce my cost, and you know, how important that is to utilities, you know, they're regulated, the way that they charge is very much driven by you know, regulation. So they got to look at how they can reduce a car. So these three or four things that are going on is saying, hey,</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>08:51</p>
<p>what I'm doing today, can it be done differently? Can it be done more cost effectively? Can it allow more flexibility? And can it reduce, you know, the use of carbons, okay, so reduce</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>09:05</p>
<p>carbon usage in the way that I use and consume power? So that's the technology that I think we've been working on an Intel is looking at those things, how can we do that, and that's what you call that utility. 2.0. So and that's really about modernizing, whatever call the utility infrastructure, and where I focus on where we've been focused on a team is much more on what we will call the operational side, the control system side, you know, you talked about the idea that the socket, you know, plugging in power comes out the systems that are doing that have been there and designed over many, many years. You know, I mean, it's a very reliable and robust infrastructure. Yeah. If you're gonna modernize that you better be sure you know what you're doing when you do.</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>09:50</p>
<p>So listeners what I hear and I think that this is an interesting conversation from for, from the perspective of industry to dot O. Utilities as a whole have to really run</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>10:00</p>
<p>With multiple generation options, you know, they're just like these micro grids that exist out there. And that that reality, unfortunately, or fortunately, or whatever you want to call it is not going away, and it's going to be bigger. That's one, two, there's a lot of pressure from a regulatory perspective, governments, what are we doing? How do we manage climate, all that good stuff is also impacting that utility. And of course, utilities are not that I'm telling you, I'll be the first to admit, I don't want my power to go up. And therefore the utilities are obligated to make sure that that pop power is down. And then</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>10:38</p>
<p>how do you take that, that soup of dynamics and be able to control it in such a way that delivers power to my house? Me because it's already and others and manufacturing in a stable way? Did I sort of summarize that up? You did you did you know that. So you can use it on a bumper sticker, it's, it's a bit lengthy, but you can use?</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>11:02</p>
<p>Yeah, it's like what I'm coming to you when I'm moving,</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>11:06</p>
<p>you're gonna run into something because it's too long.</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>11:09</p>
<p>But, but your point is very valid. So let's try and break this down. So you know, the most difficult task really is that those systems that you talked about, that are out there today that have, you know, involved in the distribution of power, so we've been looking at the substation market, you know, substations are absolutely critical in the distribution power, you know, they're very complicated, they've got a lot of legacy systems in them, they've got a lot of operation systems, what we're working on inside Intel is, we want to modernize that infrastructure. And we want to modernize it on a modern compute platform, you can take these things, these applications that are running in this environment, the manual part stays the manual part, but the systems that operate and run it and look after those that are what we will call the legacy appliance, they sit on an old piece of equipment, we can now modernize that and put it into a modern type of computer architecture. Now, it takes time to do that, you've got to make sure it's safe, you've got to make sure it's secure, you've got to make sure you're complies to the standards, you know, and ultimately, the most most important thing is any new technology should never result in you making things worse than they were before. It must improve, okay?</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>12:27</p>
<p>You want to shut initiative down, make it worse. And I guarantee you people just, yeah, they're coming after you.</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>12:34</p>
<p>So you start there. So we've been building that we've been working with utility companies on this modern computing infrastructure, taking those legacy systems, moving them on to a modern compute infrastructure.</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>12:48</p>
<p>But you talk about utility 2.0, why is that important? If you do not get those systems modernize, you will never truly be able to get to the next level. Because you cannot bring in new technologies such as AI, you can't bring in new technologies that are going to be connectivity, you're not going to be able to upgrade and add in new services, you're not going to be able to innovate, but the level that you want on the usage, you talked about the usage, you know, if I'm going to look at usage, how I'm intelligent, the using power, where the word intelligently comes in, well, what does that mean? I need to look at data, I need to analyze how I'm using something. Am I using it efficiently? Are my systems using it at the right time? Can I match the usage of my power, maybe to one, I've got a renewable this generate the sun shining really well today? Therefore, I'm generating maybe more electricity from renewables, could I map that to somehow at the factory and that the guy can up his production or that time, whenever it sounds kinda like Star Trek II, but that's a reality, what's what intelligence is, and you need a platform that can host those systems allow renewables to be very flexible in terms of the way that they come in, and then map that to the usage on the other side. And that's kind of what I will call that common platform at the substation that allows to connect the control systems with what we're going to call the evolution of these intelligent systems on the usage side as well. So you know, when you talk about utility to Rado, number one thing, let's start looking at modernization. As we modernize, can we database it, keep it running, keep it safe, keep it secure, hey, I can lower the cost as well. By the way, this is a lot cheaper, these 26 boxes that you are paying for, we can now put them on one box. Cheaper, smaller, less power. Now we've got that then we can start to sort of do some of the other things. So again, we're on a journey. absolutely the same doesn't. As you say, I didn't switch off the lights on a Friday night and Monday morning. The world has changed. It's not like that. But we definitely didn't reboot it. Yeah, we're done.</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>15:00</p>
<p>Quick finish.</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>15:03</p>
<p>No, you didn't thank God, you didn't reboot it. Java's coming out your socket that you know.</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>15:10</p>
<p>Right.</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>15:11</p>
<p>What is interesting from A to point out is that you bring up a good point about the necessity to truly modernize the realities in the marketplace, specifically within the utility area is that these these generation sources are not going away the necessity to be able to manage that demand side. And it is really a data driven solution. Can I incremental eyes it?</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>15:41</p>
<p>My approach, it's like, take a substation over here. It's a, it's a substation, and then and then approach it from your perspective. Yeah, I actually think I mean, there's two ways to do that, you know, again, I'm not saying you just throw everything away. I mean, you know, the stuff out there that works, you know, so what you do is you look at your infrastructure, and you start modernizing it incrementally bringing new things. So I always say, you know, again, let's, firstly, you've got to go for a lot of testing and proving and make sure as I say, you comply. Then you look at your substations, you say, okay, so where can I start on this journey? How do I do this? Okay, so you can bring in a substation, so yeah, this concept, and you've probably heard of it for Brownfield Greenfield. Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying that you have to rip and replace everything in one go, like, oh, let's take the whole grid and shut it down. And then, you know, hey, give us a year, we'll turn the grid on next year, we will be good to go. Okay. That's not it's gonna be incremental. So you're bringing in we we work with the utilities, we install the platform, we start with the simple stuff, first, less intrusive stuff, you know, that's in the in the substation, maybe some of the lesser critical things, we don't want to get protection relays yet, maybe just some of the distribution stuff, we start bringing that in. And then what you do is you eventually you start a migration path of the services bit by bit in the backend, what you want to do is make sure that your control systems environment,</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>17:07</p>
<p>are all systems green, is everything working, okay? I need it to be easy and consumable. So the system technology that's at the backend, that says, hey, you know, I can now see a new computer screen with new things that are going on, I can compare that with my legacy, we need that fusion of what I would call, hey, those are old systems and those new systems so and you'll start moving them across one by one. So yeah, incrementally, we'll look at the systems and the technology in the substation, move it slowly across. And eventually, you'll get to, you know, sometime in the future, you know, a platform that really, I suppose this replaced all of those legacy assets, you know, from a compute environment, all the compute control stuff that we're looking at, there'll be system level control that goes not just back to control systems, but, you know, technology to interface to that as well, you know, not just for the utility company, but for the people that are using the power as well. So you know, that management aspect that we talked about, that orchestration system needs to come both ways. I, as a user, need to understand what I'm doing. So I want to have some, I want to have some understanding of what's going on</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>18:16</p>
<p>a company like pg&e, Florida light and power, he patrols these companies. Yeah, they want to manage and understand their grid as well, from a generation perspective, am I doing the right things? Am I doing it safe? So you're going to see control in a way, go to directions, it's going to go to the end user, and it's also going to go maintain is, you know, with the the generator as well, you know, the utility company that's doing it, because I think that's important. If you truly want to innovate. Me, and you, as users have got to understand what we're doing our impact where it's coming from? I mean, wouldn't you like to know, when you're doing something today? What's the power coming from? Is it coming from renewables? Is it coming from nuclear? Is it coming from coal, you know, because now, you know, we say to ourselves, well, I didn't get the socket result? Well, you know, the kind of nice to know that, well, if I did it, the things I want to do, I don't know, as a user simple stuff. If I switch the washing machine on in the afternoon, I use renewable power. So my impact on the environments produced, if I do it in the middle of the night, simple example, I'm going to use power that's being generated from gas. So my carbon footprint goes up. So I think I know it, I think I sort of, I guess I'm geeky or whatever. But I like the idea that if I think of the younger generation now that are very aware of these things, giving them that information, allowing them to innovate with those systems as well. So again, incremental change, very safe, very secure, modernisation of the systems in a very, you know, controlled way. Once you get that and you start to accelerate and you'll see that accelerate</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>20:00</p>
<p>As we seen the need for, you know, new systems coming in, you'll be able to innovate new services. I mean, there was a fascinating thing. I believe in the telco world, they used to take about 18 months for a new service to come in. Okay. We know I just got to step in and seems like everything takes 18 months.</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>20:20</p>
<p>You know, every project that you know, you've been on it, ah, it's about 18 months to deployment. It's like, Yeah, but it is funny. It used to be two months, but it used to be about 18 months for service to be generated a new service in the telco world prior to the modernization of the infrastructure. Wow. Now they can bring in new services, my understanding is in the 15 to 30 minutes. Think about that. I've got a new idea. I want a new service. And, okay. In the telco world, you could argue, well, I've got a new app or something that doesn't matter. In the if you think about the utility isn't utility to Dotto. I don't know what those services and those applications are. But if I want to change something, I want to do something. If if an idea takes 18 months to implement, again, that's an awful long time for impact. So this technology transformation is going to allow many different things to happen. Again, I'm going to be often the if you know it, but you're absolutely right, you're talking about speed to realization, right, you're compressing that time, which is just super important. And it sounds like you're saying I'm going to remove the roadblocks. I'm going to remove the friction, and I'm going to make it as easy as possible. So nobody has an excuse. Yeah, exactly. That's, that's what I that's the journey I think we're on Yeah, I think we start off with the basics, safe, secure, reliable, high performance, we modernize the compute platforms to do that we reduce the cost of doing that for the utility companies. If we reduce that cost, that gives them more opportunity to innovate. I mean, we always know, if I'm saving money, I'm more likely to continue to do something, you know, bottom line. Absolutely. That's, that's important. I agree with you on that. So if you're looking at that transformation, and you know what it's like, there's a trust factor in any new system, especially who you tell it is, you know, the engineers and the people that run those systems, they've been doing it for a long time. They know what works, they know what doesn't work, you know, so when they see innovation, they're going to be very cautious. But when we reached a tipping point, where the trust levels of that innovation have passed, the point of this stuff works, it's, it meets absolutely all the requirements, it meets the safety standards, it meets the security standards, once they get that level of trust, and you start to see it, I think what you're gonna see is you're gonna see that rat curve, that that evolution go really, really quickly. And I think we're probably a little way away from it now in terms of that curve moving up, but we're a lot closer than we were two or three years ago, and you and others within Intel, and what you're trying to do requires an education, you're looking at an industry that has been very successful at delivering quality power for a long time. Yeah. And, and there is that need to educate. And I think you guys are doing a good job at that. And this conversation is always necessary, and it just takes time for people to consume it. Let me ask you this. Is This Really? I mean, come on, let's be truthful here. Is this pie in the sky? Or is this doable stuff? It's doable stuff. It really is doable stuff. I mean, you know, I've been working at this for a long time with my team. I've been working, you know, looking at many systems, the interaction, the systems, Ai, you know, modernisation of grid infrastructure is really doable. It works. It does what it says it does on the tin, you know, so we're proving it, we're making sure to do your point about training and educating and gaining that trust. You know, we're not doing this without going through a lot of work with the utilities companies to make sure that they are absolutely.</p>
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<p><strong>Ricy Watts&nbsp;</strong>24:12</p>
<p>On top of this, they understand it, they agree with you, it meets the requirements, all the stuff that they need to know like, imagine that you're not just operating in a vacuum, you're not just sitting there going, Hey, we're around this water cooler and and we're we're drinking our own Kool Aid. No, you're incorporated and you're bringing in from a collaborative perspective, the professionals that are out there in the utility market, correct? Yeah, yeah. be working with the utility complex. We're working with the supplier community as well. One of the things that Intel does really well is obviously we built this thing called a chip. You know, we would never use that what what up guys do</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>24:49</p>
<p>you know?</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>24:52</p>
<p>You know, what we do is and you know Intel does really really well, is that what they do is they build from that up with state</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>25:00</p>
<p>Say, Hey is a compute platform. And they work with the ecosystem so and a utility would be an end user, but they're system integrators that need to be involved companies like black and Veatch and people like that. Yeah, there are suppliers like ABB and Siemens and Schneider's, we need to work with those guys as well. So it's not just about Intel. And what we're doing, it's about this entire community, evolving atashi, these companies like that they're innovating. So they're innovating</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>25:30</p>
<p>at the same pace that we're innovating. So by working together with them, so not only working with the utilities company to show the architectures that can work showing the compute platforms that can work, working with companies, Dell, we provide platforms, companies like VMware, that provide software platforms that are optimized on Intel, to run their workloads. ABB Siemens, system integrators supply companies, we need to work with the entire value chain on this transformation as well. It's not just about Intel, it's not just about the utility. It's about everybody in that value chain, you know, and that is critical to us. And again, so we work with our partners, we innovate, we show what can be done, we keep innovating, we look at their performance metrics, we work with those companies. And ultimately, what we do is we build a system of partners, an ecosystem that deliver to what the utility is going to need, because the utility is going to go back into its supplier and say, Okay, I love what you're doing. Where do I get it from? I want it. What am I?</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>26:38</p>
<p>Okay, I have a great thing, but it's just in a lab. You know?</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>26:45</p>
<p>We got to make that is a good, good point. That is I</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>26:51</p>
<p>I liked the fact that you were talking about that value chain. I'm not sure I just what's interesting, and maybe I could be completely wrong is I see more companies willing to collaborate, and take that little and and take a little slice of that pie but and work with people such as Intel, and so on, to come up with a solution that truly is beneficial to the end user made the manufacturer that whatever it might be it, I'm just finding it more and more each and every day. Yeah, no, I would agree. I get Yeah. You know, we're all people. I mean, I know. We're all companies, we're all run on profit and loss. I'm not saying that you, you throw the baby out with the bathwater. Everybody wants to be competitive. Well, yeah, you know, what I found in this when I have these discussions, whether they with government, people, whether they're with utility companies and partners, whether they're with my family and friends, there's a genuine desire these days to be aware of what we're doing around the planet. And I know it sounds cliche, yeah. But you get that in every company that I'm aware of has this interesting thing called rise, which is really, you know, our impact on the environment. We call it the rice strategy. You know, we want to be looking at renewable sustainability, real key key values. Most other companies I mentioned before, whether it's ABB, Siemens, Schneider, they all have the same values as well. You know, we're as much responsible for the profit and loss of our companies our company's success. But we're also within those companies. We're becoming very aware. So when you talk about that partnership and that collaboration? Yeah, of course, we all want to be competitive. Absolutely. But ultimately, we want to work together. And the reasons we want to work together is because I think you're seeing this align goal that comes through all companies in that value chain, even to the end users. I mean, I want to be aware of what impact I'm having on the environment, equally as much as I want the companies that I buy services and goods from, to be aware of that as well. So I think that responsibility coming in that enhances that collaboration again, absolutely. I know that companies that we work with are going to want to be competitive, they want to want to say, Hey, you know, my widgets slightly better than the other guys. But collectively, we are all working towards bringing that utility to that zero, through. You know, we need everybody on board working that we need the utilities, companies, we do governments, we need supplier community, all of us working together. And again, I've seen you know, I've worked collaboratively in Europe, in in the Americas, in Asia Pacific as well. Everywhere I see I see a genuine ness of genuine way of working, wherever you are. So yeah, I'm seeing that kind of help create that kind of momentum, as I call it and keep and keep moving forward. So yeah, collaboratively with respect, but also maintaining competitive as well, which is what you want. You need competitiveness. you innovate through being competitive, competitive, as well. You're amen to that. That's a whole nother conference.</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>30:00</p>
<p>You're spot on that one big time. All right. We're gonna have to wrap it up, unfortunately, Ricky, I love this conversation.</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>30:09</p>
<p>Yeah, I agree with you 100%. Hey, are you active out there on LinkedIn? I am. Yeah, you can see my LinkedIn profile on there. Ricky Watts? So yeah, absolutely. You know, anybody wants to reach out to me, please do happy to talk to anybody working in this area. So, you know, you know, as I say, you, you can see, it's my passion. As much as it is, I work within the company, we've got bad deliverables. But I am really passionate about this utility 2.0 concept. I actually think it's just,</p>
<p><strong>Ricky Watts&nbsp;</strong>30:41</p>
<p>to me, it is one of the greatest evolutions that I think I'll ever be witnessed. In my lifetime. I mean, it for the right, yeah, I agree with you. 100%. It's a, it's really an exciting time. And it is bringing some of the best innovative companies together to solve real, real challenges and opportunities. For the for me a consumer and I like that there's nothing I can argue about that. It is it's going to be great for you. It's gonna, it's going to be great for our kids and our grandkids. You know, you know, I say I'm passionate about it. And the grandfather makes important to me. So yeah, anybody would like to reach out to me, find out what we're doing and Intel and my team is doing, please do. Happy to be part of the podcast today. Thanks for the opportunity to talk to you and to talk to your listeners. Now. listeners. That was a dead frickin sexy conversation. I enjoyed it. We're not going to hear you're going to you're going to say Scott, I need I need more time to get that contact information, fear not. We're going to wrap it up on the other side. I'm going to have all of that information on Ricky's podcast out on industrial talk Comm. Stay tuned, we will be right back. You're listening to the industrial talk Podcast Network.</p>
<p><strong>Scott MacKenzie&nbsp;</strong>32:03</p>
<p>What did I tell you, Ricky, thank you very much for being on the industrial talk podcast, sharing your utility, your insights into how to just make that whole grid, more modern. pushing the envelope. Really just love what what's taking place in your team and Intel and the desire to be truly innovative when it comes to the utility space supply, demand, all the good stuff that's associated with it. All right, reminder, gotta go out to industrial talk.com. Industrial talk.com is where you're going to be able to educate, collaborate, and definitely innovate with people like Ricky, his team, Intel, everything else they want to connect. Go to industrial talk. COMM find out more, because I'm telling you right now, you will not be disappointed with that. Ricky guy. All right. As a reminder, be bold, be brave, daring greatly. Yes. Reach out to people that are bold, brave and daring greatly and you know what you're gonna do? change the world. That's what we're all about. Thank you very much for joining the industrial talk podcast. We're gonna have another great interview right around the corner. Stay tuned.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In this week's Industrial Talk Podcast we're talking to Prithpal Khajuria, Global Technology Enablement Leader at Intel Corporation about "Utility 2.0 and the need to Educate, Collaborate and Innovate to Solve Today's Utility Challenges".  Get the answers to your "Utility 2.0" questions along with Prithpal's unique insight on the “How” on this Industrial Talk interview!</p>
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<p>00:04</p>
<p>Welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott MacKenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hard hat, grab your work boots, and let's get all right welcome you industry heroes. Thank you very much for joining the industrial talk podcast. This platform right here the one that I'm pointing to right there, you can see it is dedicated to you, you professional, you are bold, you are brave, you dare greatly. And man Do you innovate? You're changing the lives and you're changing the world as we speak. Why not? Why not? celebrate you?</p>
<p>00:43</p>
<p>Alright?</p>
<p>00:44</p>
<p>You know, we always have great interviews, right? We do. We just have great interviews it I take it for granted, you shouldn't take it for granted because it's an exceptionally great time to interview great people. In the hot seat, Dan Anderson, that's a n d e r s o n. And he is with a company called Life Cycle engineering. You go out to his stag party and you're gonna say, Yeah, he's smarter than everybody else, especially me. Anyway,</p>
<p>01:13</p>
<p>he's got to kind my friend,</p>
<p>01:17</p>
<p>Dan Anderson, right there, baby. Hey, Dan, before I got a quote, I got a quote that I want to share. Yeah, you got to do that. And then we're gonna go into that nice little 411 on who you are. Alright, listeners,</p>
<p>01:30</p>
<p>right here. I always have code. And of course, I'm using my computer computer. Anyway, this is from Winston Churchill. And I'm a big fan of Winston Churchill. Don't get me wrong. I am.</p>
<p>01:43</p>
<p>Now I I</p>
<p>01:44</p>
<p>sit there. And some quotes are fine. Some or some. You see it come across LinkedIn. And you go, Oh, that's pretty cool. But some are maybe a little. This one's good. And you guys, you got to take note of this a positive thinking, well, a positive thinker, sees the invisible, feels the intangible and achieves the impossible. Industry right there. That's what you guys do you see the invisible you feel the feel the intangible, and you achieve the impossible because you guys are bold, brave and daring greatly. I love it. Dan, how you doing?</p>
<p>02:18</p>
<p>I'm doing great. Scott, How about yourself? Well, thank</p>
<p>02:21</p>
<p>you very much appreciate it. It is sort of an unusual time.</p>
<p>02:25</p>
<p>It is an unusual time still continues to be an unusual time of year, almost a year since it started being unusual.</p>
<p>02:33</p>
<p>I'm telling you, I it's it's funny. So many people come to me and say, Scott, what do you think is gonna happen?</p>
<p>02:39</p>
<p>I have</p>
<p>02:40</p>
<p>zero clue. I don't I don't see anything changing. Oh, I know, I know, I'm changing. I'm the one that just sort of sits in the salt mine right here and just does these podcasts and have no interest in going. I cook way too much. And we do all of these great things. Because I think we just industry. I'm telling you, man, industry is going to be changing in Portland in a positive way. All right. For the listeners out there, Dan, give us a little 411 on who you are.</p>
<p>03:08</p>
<p>So I'm Danny Anderson. I'm the manager of the life cycle Institute at life cycle engineering, which is the educational arm of our business. I've got a history in maintenance software and reliability. So, you know, worked in plants for a bit and also as a consultant for a while. So that's a little bit about me. I've been with LC for 14 years also serve on the SMRP board of directors. Yeah.</p>
<p>03:37</p>
<p>All right. As you can imagine, he's got some major reliability st credit out there. Once again, I'm looking at the stat card you want. You know what? We have 444 mutual connections.</p>
<p>03:58</p>
<p>That's amazing. I just, yeah, we run in the same circles. That is a and by the way, these circles are fantastic. I mean, these reliability professionals and what you're working in are absolutely. They they all have, they're passionate about reliability, they're passionate about helping you and they got big hearts. They all do.</p>
<p>04:18</p>
<p>Oh, yeah. learn something new every day, Scott in this business for sure.</p>
<p>04:21</p>
<p>How does that happen? I mean, how does I mean you're right in the thick of things, and you're, you're always engaged. You're always chirping with other people who are in reliability, and and it never stops you. It's</p>
<p>04:34</p>
<p>never stops.</p>
<p>04:35</p>
<p>Yeah, yeah. It's a wonderful thing. I mean, I've you know, as I hear very often it lifecycle engineering, a lot of the folks that we have working for us are in their second careers, they just are passionate about it, right. They're passionate about best practices and helping others really,</p>
<p>04:53</p>
<p>they're they're special people to have at a party, that's for sure to talk your ear off about a lot why it's important and, and it is don't get me wrong, it is. Okay. So listeners, this is what what makes this particular conversation very unique. And now we know about the pandemic, and I'm looking off, if you if you're looking at the video, you can see I'm looking at my other screen because that's where the document resides. So don't be distracted by my head turning this way. Now, what that means is that we're going to be talking, okay, the pandemic hits, we still have to be able to educate, we still have to be able to communicate, and educate people who are in need of this information. We all of a sudden had to say, Hey, we're in person, we go to this place, and we do these things, we have flip charts, and we do the typical learning. Now all of a sudden, we have to become virtual. And that's where dance steps in Dallas, let's start talking a little bit about the effective adult learning in a virtual world. I've got I've got this whole thing highlighted. What does that mean?</p>
<p>06:01</p>
<p>Well, it's just being able to effectively deliver education via an online platform. So you know, there's a number of online platforms out there, you've got WebEx, you've got Microsoft Teams, you've got zoom, you know, our preferences, zoom, because it does have the tools in there. But if you think about it almost a year ago, Scott, I mean, March 16 2020, you know, the LLC offices were closed down due to COVID. And, you know, we had to carry on with the business and providing effective adult learning to our clients. So, you know, we had folks that had signed up for classes. And we we, we host a little bit over 1000, folks a year through our open enrollment classes, through our on site classes, things like that. So we had to change our business quickly, and had to think of, you know, how are we going to deliver the same value to our clients that they were receiving from the classroom training, but do it through an online vehicle, and may seem very simple to some, you know, what do you do just deliver the slides via the internet? And no, it's a lot different, you have to go through and reconstruct the course, you have to really put a lot of rigor into making sure that you know, the participant on the other end, and now they're not in a classroom, they're not in their, you know, interacting with their peers. They're, you know, actually sitting at a computer at their house, how do you make it interesting and relevant to them?</p>
<p>07:27</p>
<p>Yeah, how did LC come to this? I mean, the reality is that LC pivoted real quick, and I hate using the word pivot. Sorry about that. Anybody loves me, but do you understand what I'm saying? It, it is core to your business, you do great training, you and you touch a lot of people in a positive and companies in a positive way. Now, you've got to go virtual. What were that, like that conversation you're having at in your organization? What was it like it was just saying, Hey, we got to do it. And it's my understanding, you guys did it relatively</p>
<p>08:00</p>
<p>quick. We did within a couple of weeks. I mean, we didn't convert all of our classes, but the ones that were on the high priority scale, you know, ones that we had classes coming up within the next two weeks, next month or so, you know, those took priority. And so, you know, we quickly went through and, you know, got our facilitators on board, got our instructional designers on board. Thank God, for my training coordinators, you know, they became quickly changed their job roles from, you know, somebody who would, you know, deliver materials and making sure the class goes off without a hitch, you know, those sorts of responsibilities to actually producing the workshops. So, you know, it was a lot of different, you know, because everybody was scared, everybody was afraid that, Oh, my gosh, with all this going on, are we going to lose our jobs, you know, how's it going to work out. And so you really just had to make the folks feel good, but have them understand that there was going to be a shift in priorities and job responsibilities. So, you know, the training coordinators are an easy one, because that we turn them into producers, where they were actually hosting a class. So they would join the subject matter expert on a class and make sure that, you know, everything went off without a hitch, there are no technical difficulties, everybody tested zoom in advance. And so when the SME got on the line, or the facilitator was there to teach the class, they could focus on just that teaching the class versus having to deal with volume issue or something like that. There's a</p>
<p>09:29</p>
<p>ton of questions that I have, and one would be, this is fantastic. But really, prior to the pandemic, LC he was on site or, or in, in classroom, that was your model, that's what you did. And then all of a sudden, we need to figure out some sort of a virtual way to make it engaging and, and achieve the same objective of, you know, adult learning. I'm consuming the content on it, and I'm not. I mean, did you guys just sort of sit around To say, something out on the internet that sort of gives us a guidance or did you just sort of say, Hey, we're gonna have to be different, we're gonna have to make it more</p>
<p>10:09</p>
<p>interactive, whatever</p>
<p>10:10</p>
<p>it might be, what was that, like?</p>
<p>10:13</p>
<p>What was going through I mean, my company generally uses WebEx, you know, that's a standard online platform. With this, though, we found the additional capabilities through zoom, were critical, because like you had mentioned, Scott, you know, in a traditional face to face classroom setting, you have folks breakout and flip charts learn from each other, you know, we needed the capabilities to have breakout rooms, and, you know, have a have a whiteboard within those great breakout rooms. So everybody could brainstorm through certain concepts and objectives with the course. You know, and then also, you know, we had self paced online learning modules already built. So, you know, we integrated those into the classroom experience, we integrated more videos to where, you know, there might be a storytelling by the by the facilitator, you know, we would possibly go through and have a video in there, so it resonate a little bit more, having online polls are great, you know, if you're taking if you're having folks brainstorm through a class, you know, having that capability, through zoom really helped us, you know, to share content, handouts, and all that stuff. So, you know, some of the things you take for granted, you know, on a typical conference call, where we're just talking to each other, you know, but to have those capabilities that, you know, really focused on the activity based learning of the participant. You know, that was critical for us, you know, and that was one of the first steps was just picking out, you know, what, what online platform we wanted to use. Yeah, it</p>
<p>11:44</p>
<p>was funny. Pre pandemic I've used, I've used zoom, I don't use all the capabilities of zoom, but it has a lot of horsepower, and pre pandemic, I remember having conversations like, Hey, I know it's zoom, you don't know too much about zoom, click the bottom, you know, there would be instructional things that we'd have to do. From my perspective, it's been a great boon. I never have any problems with anybody getting on zoom. Now. My life's easier as a result of the pandemic. Just a joke. Good joke. Now, I'm looking at the dog. And one of the things that stands out in and there are two things one, and this is for your listeners, right? If you think you're going to just sort of convert a classroom into a virtual type of environment. I think that that is a sort of a naive view of how to create a virtual classroom and virtual learning.</p>
<p>12:47</p>
<p>That's correct. That's one,</p>
<p>12:48</p>
<p>it's just you can't do it. And therefore you need somebody like, Dan and company to figure out, well, here's, here's real, here's virtual, what do I need to do? One of the things that stands out as a result of that, I see that you have 40 to 60 hours of professional instructional designers going into each one of these just for one hour of class. Yeah.</p>
<p>13:12</p>
<p>hours.</p>
<p>13:13</p>
<p>Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah. You know, depending on the fidelity, right, you know, so are the advanced pneus of the of the learning, right? So if you're just sitting there Central, simply lecturing, that doesn't seem like much. And one of the reasons why, you know, folks come to a professional consulting organization is for learning that produces results, right. And the end of the day, that's what we all want at a training is something that's going to give us something we could put in our tool belt, and it's going to cause us to do something differently, you know, that we were doing before. And so, you know, the instructional design, that's an interesting fact, there, Scott, because a lot of people don't know that outside of that. They think simply, well, how can we can't just convert the class that we used to deliver to virtual? Well, we put a lot of work into it, Scott, you know, we abbreviated, we took out a lot of we focused on the learning objectives, we chunked it out, took out some of the content, replaced it with, you know, some more things that would resonate better to the online platform, and, you know, really focused on, you know, what would this class look like? And how are we going to maintain the attention of our students that are going through this curriculum? You know, there's a lot of things that will distract you when you're sitting at your house, you know,</p>
<p>14:30</p>
<p>you can watch right over there that went that ham sandwich.</p>
<p>14:33</p>
<p>Yeah, that ham sandwich, you know, the laundry pile, but the garbage, all that stuff that goes on in your house has to be engaged and that's the most important part was starting with the end in mind and being engaged. So</p>
<p>14:47</p>
<p>okay, so that to me is like, that's a loaded question. Right. One of the things that I think is at the heart is that facilitator I might feel more comfortable with me going totally anonymous and and being on site. Be able to do that. But we're talking, we're talking a virtual facilitator, we're talking somebody that has to feel comfortable being in it. Talk to us a little bit about that as a success option.</p>
<p>15:14</p>
<p>Yeah, no, no, I mean, you'll, you'll never hear me call the folks that deliver our classes, instructors, they're always facilitators. And there's a reason behind that, because they're facilitating learning in the classroom. They're hoping folks to learn from each other. And so, you know, you got a dynamic person, you know, sometimes you have people that are subject matter experts, they know a lot, a lot, Scott, and can sit there and tell you stories all day long. But are they good in front of the classroom? Do they get people to interact with each other, learn from each other? And are they dynamic? You know, do they integrate energizers into their delivery? Do they just sit up there and tell stories? Or do they get everybody involved? And so, you know, that's definitely a critical aspect, especially when it comes to the virtual deliveries, because, you know, again, you're trying to energize folks and keep them engaged and always have them, you know, really on topic and, and contributing to the class and see, you know, you you receive non verbal communication in a, in a real setting, right? If I'm standing up, and I'm looking at a class, and I'm delivering whatever,</p>
<p>16:25</p>
<p>you know, content, I can see people who are engaged and people who are not, and it gives me the cue to go over to the people and say, Hey, what about what do you think about this and try to bring it back in and getting engaged in a virtual world that's even compounded even more, in a greater sense. And so that facilitator must have just tremendous capabilities to be able to make sure that everybody is engaged, because to your point, learning that produces results, requires that you keep the individuals engaged, right?</p>
<p>16:57</p>
<p>Oh, yeah, yeah. And that's one of the things too, is really critical about the zoom. You know, training sessions have people keep their cameras on, you know, there's, there's easy ways to go on mute and disappear, if you don't have your camera on. So we do highly encourage it. People have their cameras on, I never did that.</p>
<p>17:13</p>
<p>Never. I've never Yeah, it happens all the time. And that is a real good point. Because you do need to see that. You need to have those, those nonverbal communications happening, if you're truly interested in delivering a solid product. Now, we talked about the zoom. But let's talk a little bit about that this whole pandemic. What type of roadblocks Are you seeing out there from this desire to bring in this virtual</p>
<p>17:46</p>
<p>learning? Well, you know, first and foremost, even when, you know, we first started deploying it, Scott, a lot of people were just waiting for it to be over there. They were like, I want to get back to classroom I don't I don't want to do the virtual training. So it's getting over that negative connotation. I think a lot of times, too, that people feel that it's not as effective because maybe they have sat in on a an online training session, and we're bored to death. And, you know, just for like, oh, gosh, this is horrible. I don't ever want to do training,</p>
<p>18:18</p>
<p>I have to interrupt. It is it is it's biblical proportion, that scenario, sitting through a virtual training environment, and being bored out of my mind. It is biblical, it happens all the time. Kudos to LC continue. I'm sorry, I had it I had to jump in, because that is a big deal.</p>
<p>18:39</p>
<p>No, it is. And it's one of the things that a lot of people leave and still have a hard time getting over. So, you know, I'd highly encourage you to, you know, if you ever get the chance to sit in on one of our classes got you know, you'll find it really engaging, and you'll see the difference. And so a lot of times too, I've been having to work with folks just through their, hey, we're gonna wait until things get back to normal. Well, we don't know, the normal, you know, when is it going to get back to normal, I don't think it'll ever change, we're always going to have this virtual type environment. I mean, we're, we plan on going back to face to face training, when it's a suitable time, a safe time for us to do it. But we're also going to this has opened up a whole new product line for Scott, you know, to reach people on, you know, maybe the other side of the world that can't travel to the US for for this stuff. So it's a I think it was very difficult getting over that getting over that negative connotation initially.</p>
<p>19:36</p>
<p>Yeah, you know, it's interesting, and I think still people are, you know, like, again, kudos to LTE to be able to recognize the necessity to truly adjust the way you deliver. You know, training that's huge from a virtual perspective. Now you have a bonafide model of being able to do that and do it effectively and keeping people engaged. Powerful. I, I find that people, unlike LTE, sometimes companies want to do it. Yeah, and do shortcuts. I can't, I can't look at a crystal ball and think that, you know, things will go ever back to whatever pre pandemic normal, maybe, maybe 10 years, I don't know, when you when you're always receiving news that we're gonna, we're gonna stop people from travel anyway, I think that personally, if you can crack this nut, I think you forever change the DNA of me and how I learned because I I want to learn, but I don't want to be bored. But if you can satisfy that learning and make it entertaining, and I'm consuming it, I'm forever changed. I think you guys are onto something pretty big.</p>
<p>20:52</p>
<p>Thank you, Scott. Thank you. Yeah, we're definitely in the business of learning that produces results, right? You know, because there's a lot of companies out there that just are, you know, if you want to check in the box, and I can sense it from a mile away, and somebody comes in and starts talking about price and this and that they're just looking to my boss said, I need to get this training, and they don't understand you know, why they're doing it, or what they want to do differently, you know, because of it, then, you know, we're not in that business, we're not in that business of just a check in the box, we want to make an impact on people's lives. So</p>
<p>21:27</p>
<p>if I'm interested, you're asked about on LinkedIn, because we've got 144, same connections. So yeah. But what what type? How can you I mean, I'm looking at this, you got a $400 voucher lifecycle, institution classes through March 30. It's a credit, it's a voucher. How does you know, tell us a little bit about that.</p>
<p>21:50</p>
<p>So just go, you go to the LC website, www.lc, lifecycle engineering.com. And there's a stimulus promotion that we're running through the end of March, march 31, is when we're going to be wrapping up the promotion, it's good for all of our virtual instructor led, and self paced elearning products. So if you want to sample it, and you're interested, you know, we're extending this voucher. Now, it's a COVID, stimulus voucher of sorts, to make sure that, folks, if you're looking for education, effective adult learning, and if you aren't comfortable with going back to the classroom, just yet, then, you know, we certainly are excited about the chance to provide that to you. And it's something that we're extended to our clients out there, along with them some scholarships, so folks that have been laid off as well, too, from their jobs. were willing to entertain that as well. So you know, just trying to help folks during this this period of time.</p>
<p>22:53</p>
<p>So let's say I'm interested in and I'm a company, and I can use your product, it's it's, it's important. I need this training, I mean, company, Acme, whoever I am. wants to take advantage of that's great. What if I have in house training, and I just want to talk to you about how I can make my training, more effective, and still do your stuff. But I have my own, you know, product, whatever it might be? Are you willing to entertain conversations like that?</p>
<p>23:23</p>
<p>Yes, of course, you know, we have an instructional design team within the lifecycle institute that helps helps folks with facilitator development. So if you have subject matter experts, and you want them to get in front of the classroom, and delivered effective training, you can do that as well, too. And, yeah, we're always available to support you in building a course or, you know, optimizing a channel like</p>
<p>23:49</p>
<p>that. LC E. Dan, with a big heart. All right, again, you know, listeners out there, we're all about one, remember this, we have got to be committed to education. That's one, two. Again, we've got to be committed to collaborating. We don't have all the answers. You got to reach out to Dan, he's got answers that can make your business your life much better. And then of course, a natural outgrowth is innovation. We're talking about making Virtual Training, more innovative. Dan, got it. Team. ltds. Got it. I'm just telling you right now, I'm gonna have that link out on this $400 voucher, out on industrial talk.com you're gonna get it. I'm gonna promote it. You're gonna get it, you know, and reach out to Dan, because I'm going to have his contact information, as well. Dan, thank you very much for joining the industrial talk podcast.</p>
<p>24:46</p>
<p>Oh, thank you, Scott. My pleasure. Always a pleasure to connect with you, sir.</p>
<p>24:50</p>
<p>Nice, isn't it? I like that. All right. Let's do this. I want you to be bold. I want you to be brave. I want you to dare greatly because you are responsible for changing the world. I know it's heavy, but you are hanging out with people who are bold, hang out with people who are brave and daring greatly and I guarantee you will change the world. Thank you very much for joining the industrial talk podcast. And, you know, be safe out there. We're gonna have another great interview right around the corner. Stay tuned.</p>
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