Michael Mills with Fluke Reliability

Industrial Talk is onsite at Xcelerate 2025 and talking to Michael Mills, Technical Sales Manager at Fluke Reliability about “Connected Reliability with EMaint”.
Scott MacKenzie interviews Michael Mills, Technical Sales Manager at Fluke Reliability, about the eMaint X5 system. X5, the third version in three years, is a scalable, cloud-based system designed for global deployment, integrating data from various locations and currencies. It supports standardized benchmarking and offers a unified dashboard for executive views. X5 also includes a spare parts inventory section and integrates with Azima's vibration analysis for automated work order generation. Future developments focus on standardization, mobile enhancements, and AI/machine learning to improve data accuracy and user experience.
Action Items
- [ ] Reach out to Michael Mills on LinkedIn to connect and learn more about email and Fluke Reliability's solutions.
Outline
Introduction and Welcome
- Scott MacKenzie introduces the Industrial Talk podcast, highlighting its focus on industry professionals and innovations.
- Scott MacKenzie welcomes listeners and thanks them for their support, mentioning the platform's celebration of industry professionals.
- Scott MacKenzie announces the broadcast from the Xcelerate 2025 event, sponsored by Fluke Reliability.
- Scott MacKenzie introduces Michael Mills, the Technical Sales Manager with Fluke Reliability, and expresses excitement about discussing various topics.
Discussion on Autonomous Cars and Personal Backgrounds
- Scott MacKenzie and Michael Mills discuss their experiences with autonomous cars, specifically Waymo.
- Michael Mills shares his positive experience with the autonomous car, noting the absence of a driver.
- Scott MacKenzie mentions his son's experience with the autonomous car and expresses excitement about the future of such technology.
- Michael Mills provides a brief background on himself, mentioning his 10-year tenure with Fluke Reliability and his focus on software and integrated systems.
Overview of eMaint X5 System
- Scott MacKenzie expresses enthusiasm for the connected reliability effort at Fluke Reliability.
- Michael Mills explains the evolution of the eMaint system, from X3 to X5, highlighting the modern technology and scalability of X5.
- Michael Mills discusses the global deployment capabilities of X5, including support for different currencies and time zones.
- Scott MacKenzie inquires about the system's ability to provide an executive view of data across multiple sites, and Michael Mills confirms its capabilities.
Currency and Scalability of eMaint X5
- Scott MacKenzie asks about the system's handling of currency and exchange rates, and Michael Mills confirms its ability to pull and translate data from different databases.
- Michael Mills discusses the ongoing development and integration of new technologies like Zima and Proof Technica into the eMaint system.
- Scott MacKenzie and Michael Mills discuss the architectural vision of eMate as a hub for seamless connectivity and integration with other systems.
- Michael Mills emphasizes the importance of standardization and the ability to scale the system across multiple locations.
Cloud Transition and Support
- Scott MacKenzie and Michael Mills discuss the transition from on-premise to cloud-based systems, with eMaint being one of the first to adopt a SaaS platform.
- Michael Mills highlights the benefits of cloud-based systems, including faster updates and reduced maintenance requirements.
- Scott MacKenzie expresses amazement at companies still reluctant to adopt cloud solutions, and Michael Mills explains the ease of updates and support in cloud environments.
- Michael Mills mentions the support team's ability to access and manage the system remotely, enhancing efficiency and reducing travel time.
Integration with Azima and Vibration Analysis
- Scott MacKenzie inquires about the integration of Azima's vibration expertise with eMaint, and Michael Mills explains the proof of concept integration.
- Michael Mills describes how Azima's analysis results can generate work orders within eMaint, streamlining maintenance processes.
- Scott MacKenzie and Michael Mills discuss the automation of work orders and the removal of human intervention in mundane tasks.
- Michael Mills emphasizes the importance of accurate data and the role of Azima in providing actionable insights for maintenance planning.
Inventory Management and Tool Tracking
- Scott MacKenzie asks about the warehouse component of eMaint, and Michael Mills explains the system's spare parts inventory management.
- Michael Mills discusses the integration of purchasing processes with ERPs and other resource planning software.
- Scott MacKenzie highlights the importance of having all necessary tools and equipment readily available for technicians.
- Michael Mills explains the role of eMaint in managing inventory and tool tracking, ensuring accurate data and efficient maintenance processes.
Minimizing Pencil Whipping and Future Directions
- Scott MacKenzie inquires about minimizing pencil whipping, and Michael Mills explains the use of structured data and audit trails to prevent inaccurate data entry.
- Michael Mills discusses the importance of reinforcing business processes to ensure compliance and accurate data.
- Scott MacKenzie asks about the future direction of eMaint, and Michael Mills outlines three key themes: standardization, mobile enhancements, and AI/machine learning.
- Michael Mills highlights the ongoing development of eMaint's mobile app, integration with food tools, and the use of AI to improve data querying and user experience.
Closing Remarks and Contact Information
- Scott MacKenzie expresses excitement about the future of eMaint and the ongoing innovations in the industry.
- Michael Mills provides his contact information, encouraging listeners to connect with him on LinkedIn.
- Scott MacKenzie wraps up the conversation, emphasizing the importance of building a network of industry professionals and the value of the Xcelerate 2025 event.
- Scott MacKenzie thanks Michael Mills for the conversation and encourages listeners to visit the Industrial Talk website for more information.
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MICHAEL MILLS' CONTACT INFORMATION:
Personal LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelmills-technicalsales/
Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/fluke-reliability/posts/?feedView=all
Company Website: https://reliability.fluke.com/
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Industrial Talk, Fluke Reliability, Michael Mills, eMaint X5, connected reliability, cloud-based, asset management, inventory management, AI and machine learning, sustainability, skills gap, mobile app, vibration analysis, work orders, compliance.
Scott, welcome to the industrial talk podcast with Scott Mackenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting edge industry focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hard hat, grab your work boots and let's go all
ng on site here at Accelerate:Hey, it's the best time of year. I'm happy to be here in Austin at
this Hey, have you taken there's a autonomous car. Waymo, have you taken it? Have you seen it? I saw it. We've taken
it. Oh, really. How was it? It's a game changer. It went past me, and I definitely pointed out to the person next to me, like, there's no one in or no one in the front seat. No, that's what I
saw. Yeah, it's a game changer. My son and my son's here, and we found time in the morning to go grab one. Okay, there's so much it's it's the future. Okay, it really is, man, it's exciting. I digress, all right, before we get going into the conversation about email and all of the wonderful things that are happening there, give us a little background on who Michael
is, sure Michael Mills, I'm the Technical Sales Manager here with the email team. I work with Fluke reliability. I've been around the organization about 10 years, originally, before the acquisition of fluke, but really just honed in on the software side of things, and now the different integrated systems. So as we grow, how can we tie in proof, Technica, Zima and so on into our systems to make them run a little better, right, and a little easier for the end user. That's my
my background. I'm all I'm all giddy about the whole connected reliability effort that's taking place within Fluke reliability. I mean anything that makes it simple or or friendly, or whatever. I think you guys have got something really tell us or just just now, there's, there's eMaint, but we're in five, right? V5 x5 x5 I'm sorry, yep, doping B should have been prepared. I knew it was five. We've got that, right? Oh yeah, tell us a little bit
about x5 Sure. X5 is currently actually the third version of the system that I've been working with the past couple years, released about three years,
third version in the past couple of years, since I, since I started 10 years ago. Holy cow, buckle in.
When I started that, we were in x3 we've moved x4 and now we're navigating to x5 Yeah, that was released about three years ago. It's modern technology. It's built to scale. It's taking what we have with the next four making all the improvements we always want, always wanted, around being able to deploy email across not just one site, but globally. So it has extra currencies, cultures, different time zones all built into it. So if you're trying to standardize, you can look at this system and say, Hey, we deployed this once. We can do it repeatably across the globe. So everybody's kind of benchmarking in the same way,
if I were to, if I'm a US based company, and then I have a European based company, and then I have, I have an Asia base, and they're all we're all part of the same company. Does eMaint allow me to sort of roll that up into a sort of a an executive view?
That's exactly what the x5 system does, is it takes all of those different sites, and if you're in an individual location, you can see your data, right? So if I'm an end user, I'm probably only seeing from Florida, New Jersey, wherever I'm at, and then if you're across the globe, you'll only see your information, but there's a global view, right? So someone can go and report across the board, and you're not having to pick through all different, all different data and try to figure it out. You set up one dashboard one time, and you're off and running, so it does the hard work for you.
Well, this, this this is sort of detailish, but does it also deal with the currency, and then makes it normal for me with with the conversion rate and all that stuff. And said, Okay, I got
it. Yeah, it does. It pulls from different different databases, the different currencies at the time, the exchange rates. So whenever you have that loaded, it. It'll translate it for you. And it's, it's really been effective over the past couple years. As we've we've rolled it out, so we're excited to see how we can scale it again. Everyone brings in new ideas from different locations. So as we're implementing we we get that feedback of different applications, use cases and
so on. You say, scale, isn't it? What do you mean by that?
We're constantly, you know, within Fluke reliability, adding in new technologies, Zima proof technic and so on. And so it's not just gonna be the software, it's what else can we feed into it to drive the better outcomes for the customers? And I think we've done a great job at so far. But you know how software and different systems evolve? Whatever the next acquisition is going to be, I'm sure,
will be even more of a game changer. But the architectural, the overarching architectural vision, is to allow eMaint to be that hub and things being able to connect seamlessly. You know, where I don't have to go to different systems, right? That's, that's the vision.
That's that, that's the vision. Then everything is going to be, basically, you main operates as an extension of these other systems. So as you're going through and building out, detecting certain failure modes and so on, this will be your historian, where you can, yes, all maintenance activities, and then report off of in a system of record exactly. And that's the general idea is, that's where the results sit, right. So that's where we've been for the past. So past while,
yeah, now where's it going? What? What are some of the exciting things that are taking place?
Yeah, so that's it's always interesting to me, especially coming into this event, right? A couple years ago, it was all around, you know, what can we connect into EMA? What can we integrate? You know, including sensory technologies, tying the ERPs and so on. Last year was all around sustainability. This year's all around bridging that skills gap using digital options, AI, machine learning, all different types of learning technologies that are going to make me better at the point of contact with an asset. And that's really where we're heading, is being able to deploy the ability to go all the way top to bottom, supporting the end user who's at the point of contact with an asset all the way up to the top, where somebody can report globally and say, you know, here's where we're winning and here's what we need to improve. So supporting the senior reliability team members all the way down to again, new team member just came on board.
And this is cloud. It is cloud. Yeah, how do you are you transitioning your client base, from on prem to cloud, the different versions,
everything, we've been one of the first to come into the SaaS platform, all in the cloud. So we we typically get customers that are coming to us who want to go cloud based moving off of on premise. So it's really helped us to ramp things up. You know, we're not having to do reinstallations or anything like that, or maintain servers at a customer site, we have a very high powered server group that maintain them in the cloud, and then we can, we can deploy new versions and updates from there. So it's,
yeah, I'm always, I'm always amazed that there are some companies that are still sort of reluctant to get into the
cloud, right? It allows us to improve the system fast, you know, especially as
we're offering updates. Yeah, see, you don't have to shut the business down and and bring out, you know, these discs and updated and shut it. It just happens magically,
exactly. I mean, it's a little harder work than that, but, yeah, you know, I don't, I
don't want to see how the sausage is. I just want results. I just want the machine, the system, to work, sure, and I
think that's one of the reasons why our support team so great, is they can help from anywhere, right? That's the idea. You call in, they're able to access the system. They're able to to make changes, slight tweaks, as needed. And, you know, again, support you as you go. So it's it's made my life easy over the past 10 years. Working with the group is not having to go and remote in or go to someone's location, right?
But, but he main has always been cloud. You've always been in the cloud.
Always been, well, always, even
version 3x
three was in the cloud. X3 x3
is sorry, sorry, I, I should know better. I didn't know that. Yeah, X Ray has been the cloud. Do you have, do you have clients that are on older legacy I
s gonna say, I believe around:in the cloud. Yeah, it makes sense. Tell me about Azima and the connected with connection with Zima. Where do we stand with that?
Sure. So that's actually one of the benefits of being here. I saw my colleague, Austin, the product owner of Azeema right now, was actually firing off work orders into EMaints through just a proof of concept integration. And so what we're doing is we're adding within Fluke reliability all these different groups, vibration being a key aspect of that, where Azima is bringing 40 plus years of vibration expertise and analysis, and then the results of that, the analysis saying, hey, there may be an issue here. We detected something. Go and replace the bearing, or whatever that needs to be. We'll have a work order to track materials to. Time spent, cost associated with that within emails. So we're really creating that, that extension that you're looking for, where sensory technology will say, hey, there's a problem that we think will be coming up in a certain amount of time. Let's get in front of that. And then you can use EMaint to plan schedule and make sure you have an effective
outcome. But you want, you want it automated, yeah, yeah. You know, take away that, I hate to say it, that human intervention and allow the technology to to remove the mundane, sure, or do the mundane, not remove it from me, but do the mundane to be able to create the work order and and, and it fire out that work order with all of the the accurate information
that's exactly it is. So what it's doing is taking away that one extra step that you have to remember, right? And so what it does is it fuses what it detected into your your extended workflow. So if you have a backlog that you're working through, or if you have a series of tasks that you need to get through, through the day, the week, the month, whatever that is, it just slides that in there so you can stick with your existing workflows and kind of like the strategy of navigating that backlog, and allow you to just not have somebody have to learn two different systems. That's the general idea. But if you want to go into Azim and see, you know, all of their analytics, if you have someone who's, you know, cat three or cat two, cat three, cat four, vibration analysts, they can see the data that they want, and again, your maintenance teams are going through and executing that work and creating a feedback. Look. It's like, here's what we did, here's what we saw. The analysis was accurate, and let's remember this for next time. So it's that knowledge that you're getting out of it. It's just such a benefit.
Does x5 have a warehouse component, like, like, inventory, real time, cannibalized pallets.
It has spare parts. Inventory section, the system. It's an area that we've been really building on, yeah, so you have the ability to management different locations and everything like that. X5 is great. It allows you to replicate a lot of your purchasing processes that may exist in an ERP. So a lot of times, when you look at it, the next five, you have your spare parts, if your suppliers in different locations, it creates Part Three order lists. You can create a purchase order if requisitioning, right? I'm just naming different areas of the system. What it does is it allows you, if you're using a bigger system, right, if you're using an ERP or some type of resource planning software, we can integrate with that so you can either use email 100% for inventory, or we can operate as an extension of a bigger system. We'd be foolish to believe that we're the only enterprise level system that they're using within their different departments,
yeah, but because you know it these, these jobs don't operate in a vacuum. There's always other pieces of equipment, tools that you need to get and and it would be great to be able to just say, there it is automated. Boom, here it is. Here the drawings. Here's everything that you need to be an effective technician, right? And it's all there, kitted, ready to go,
right? And we can do all that right within the email. It's only as good as the data that gets in there. Obviously, we have an implementation team that will help to structure all this information. We make it easy for anyone to input that data right, that you have it going forward, and then obviously you want to use the tool, as opposed to, you know, have to make go back and revise. So overall, I think we've, we've really honed in on that user experience, around how e main can help with inventory, with tool tracking and those types of things, so your data is accurate. You know, you're not having to fight for records.
How do you this is I digress. How do you minimize pencil whipping.
You well, you structure, structure your data the way you need to. And then on top of that, you there's a couple ways we go about this. I was gonna say when it comes to pencil whipping, when it comes to minimizing the you know, hey, I'm just gonna close out this work. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, it's all around the metrics. We do have team members that whenever you go into the audit trail and you look at the history of certain users and things like that, you can see, hey, you build in a hierarchy. You need to complete this and send it to me to review, right? Or, hey, you only have certain options that you can select from. You have to input this data right? That's how we do it required information to reinforce your business processes and not say, lose 20 work orders, because we can just close them out.
That's always the case. Where do you where do you see it going? What's that future hat look like for you?
There's there's been three, three common themes I always think about, especially when I'm dealing with our product management team that I work with heavily Naveen is one of our senior product managers, and he's been excellent along the way. There's always areas around standardization. So the ability to scale x5 like I mentioned, you can put hundreds of locations into an individual account and just have it grow, because then you're comparing everyone on the same scale different systems. Everyone rolls it up into one. Mobile is a big aspect. They've a lot of enhancements to our email mobile app over the past year or so that's really helped out with, you know, online offline capabilities, the ability to comment. There's an integration with some of our food tools, right? So, pencil whipping, right? Yeah. You can actually connect like an installation installation tester, and it will take the reading and put it right in your email mobile app. And then, other than that, again, it goes into AI, right and machine learning, I think that there's going to be a lot of inputs that come into the system and ways of querying the data to make sure that, again, the end user has the data that they need and the data that they definitely need, and not just extra information that won't help out with the final result. So I think that's kind of where we're building on, is those three, three pillars. Right now, it's
exciting. Yeah, without a doubt, I every time I come to an event here with you guys, yeah, I'm always fascinated by there's this desire to make it simple and and get greater compliance. Compliance sounds so authoritarian, however, compliance, of getting people to use the system in the way it needs to that truly adds value to their business, which is where what you what you really want. So how does somebody get a hold of you? Oh, get a hold
of me. I'm on LinkedIn. We planned that, by the way, just FYI, yeah. Michael Mills on LinkedIn. The meantime, Are you active? I'm active now. Last time I was on here, I was not. Now I'm you gotta, you gotta, you
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